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Mar 15, 2020 12:26PM PDT

But there are only two options to choose from here now....
This was something I came across today and even though I don't agree with many things Teddy Roosevelt regarding his politics, this one speech hits the mark.

“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
Theodore Roosevelt
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

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RE:But there are only two options to choose from here now..
Mar 15, 2020 1:05PM PDT

AND take/accept responsibility for choosing which option was chosen?

"here and now"

Don't be blaming it on the guy that was there before you?

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More irrelevant babble from the
Mar 15, 2020 4:17PM PDT

Speakeasy expert on nonsensical comments...……

irrelevant
[əˈreləvənt]

ADJECTIVE
not connected with or relevant to something.

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RE:irrelevant
Mar 15, 2020 6:50PM PDT

How so?

You referred to former POTUS Theodore Roosevelt, and I paraphrased what another former POTUS Harry Truman said.

AND take/accept responsibility for choosing which option was chosen = "The Buck Stops Here".

I referred to The sign "The Buck Stops Here" that was on President Truman's desk in his White House office.

BTW In YOUR OP I notice there is NO mention of accepting responsibility for the outcome....

who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

Donald (it's the other guys fault) Trump?

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Have you turned into Schiff now?
Mar 16, 2020 5:48AM PDT

Paraphrase? You didn't even mention that you were paraphrasing ANYONE....instead you made stuff up....got called on your crap....and took the Schiff route to defend yourself. Typical Dem spin on your OWN actions by NOT taking responsibility for what you just did, JP.

It IS the other guy's fault if they don't take responsibility for HIMSELF and take heed of a situation that exist ALL AROUND HIM and get the hell out of harm's way by REMOVING himself from it. It's not like that guy didn't have plenty of warning....he had MONTHS of it and now you want to blame TRUMP because the lines are long trying to get out of it NOW. At least the people on cruise ships are accepting that they can't get out of their situation, but it was through no fault of their own....they have no choice...those 'other guys' DID and ignored making one. God has a way with dealing with stupid......

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RE:It IS the other guy's fault if they don't take responsibi
Mar 16, 2020 6:31AM PDT
It IS the other guy's fault if they don't take responsibility for HIMSELF

I agree with you...as long as "the other guy" is a Trump supporter. Devil

The people that follow the lead of Trump are responsible for THEIR actions, and DJT accepts NO responsibility for HIS actions?.....THAT'S the rub. Man up Donnie...
Man up....This adverbial phrase came to be used as a noun, denoting either procrastination
Trump says something is a HOAX.

People take HIS word as Gospel.

People take actions based on HIS words.

THEY get caught in a situation.

Trump denies what HE has said, and denies any culpability in the turmoil.

Trump’s Dangerously Effective Coronavirus Propaganda

From the moment the coronavirus reached the United States, President Donald Trump has seemed determined to construct an alternate reality around the outbreak. In the information universe he has formed, COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, is no worse than the seasonal flu; criticism of his response to it is a “hoax”; and media coverage of the virus is part of a political conspiracy to destroy his presidency.

The "other guy" should take responsibility and DJT has NO responsibility?
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Are you stupidly trying to say
Mar 16, 2020 10:10AM PDT

that those who were overseas and didn't take responsibility for themselves by coming home immediately when they knew the situation they were in aren't Trump supporters because they are blaming Trump for the situation they are in NOW? You only want Trump supporters to take responsibility for themselves, is what you said. Anti-Trump people get a free pass, as usual, from people like you?

And, yes, it's been PROVEN that the Russian/Trump collusion crap WAS and CONTINUES TO BE A HOAX, JP.....even though Dems keep bringing Russia into the mix even with the coronavirus blame game going on. Is it a HOAX when China now states that soldiers in China started the virus...or should that government take responsibility for it because it originated in their country via animals they continue to sell in open markets that supposedly started the transmissional jump from them to humans....many of which are exotic type animals that aren't sold and eaten or used for false medicinal purposes anywhere else in the world? Blame their culture and then the coverup on them? or are you ok with them blaming our soldiers for it and doing it publicly worldwide?

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RE: the Russian/Trump collusion crap
Mar 16, 2020 10:44AM PDT

Sorry, I couldn't find "Russia/Trump collusion" in the link I provided.....

Divert And Deflect? TONI H version?

OR are YOU "paraphrasing"?

IF "Russia/Trump collusion" IS mentioned in the link I provided...Thank you for showing me where it is.

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RE:got called on your crap..
Mar 16, 2020 7:01AM PDT

Yo!..... TONI H...

Your mission, should you accept it, is to "paraphrase" the phrase "The Buck Stops Here".

I'm going with take/accept responsibility for choosing which option was chosen = "The Buck Stops Here".

Google says....the responsibility for something cannot or should not be passed to someone else.

TONI H says?

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At least when Schiff lied
Mar 16, 2020 10:13AM PDT

on the government RECORD by 'paraphrasing' Trump's words, he NAMED the person he was 'paraphrasing'....you didn't do that, JP.

You 'paraphrased' with babble, attributed it to NO ONE, and then tried to spin it. Your repeated babble is where you ALWAYS lose your credibility. YOUR mission, should you accept it, is to become literate enough to make sense when you have a comment.

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RE: he NAMED the person he was 'paraphrasing'....you didn't
Mar 16, 2020 10:35AM PDT

he NAMED the person he was 'paraphrasing'....you didn't do that, JP.

YES...I DID name the person I was "paraphrasing"...Harry Truman....Look up....Way up

Just not a soon as YOU would like.

Now that you know who I was "paraphrasing"...

Do YOU agree that DJT claimed the Covid 19 was a Democrat HOAX?

Yes OR No?

Do you agree that DJT has a difficult time accepting responsibility for ALL of HIS actions, especially the ones that go awry?

a·wry
adjective
away from the appropriate, planned, or expected course; amiss.