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No more pencils, no more books

Jun 27, 2007 4:34AM PDT
I won't say the rest

Times have changed.

We had no fear of running the streets all hours of the day or night.

What's a pencil?

Happy

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Yep, summer was something to look forward to
Jun 27, 2007 5:01AM PDT

One place we lived had a field behind the house that was full of weeds, bugs, and even had some blackberry bushes, fruit trees (apples and pears) and also a walnut tree. We had BB guns and tried to shoot the heads off of milkweed just as they'd open. But the neighborhood was beginning to develop and houses were going up nearby. Our weed field became a dumping ground for waste lumber and building materials. Of course that's what our parents thought. For us kids, the piles of wood and bent nails were usable supplies. We built a two story club house and who knows what else. We'd pound out and straighten nails and hand saw the lumber. What a treat it was to have this dump to play in.

We rarely wore shoes during the day. Our feet were hardened and capable of walking on gravel...and gravel paths were plentiful. We'd shinny up the trees to pick fruit and nuts. Our legs would be scraped but we didn't care. Bandaids and merthiolate treatments were part of the daily routine. Our parents never told us to stay within site but just not to pick our scabs. Happy

We had bikes and would venture out with no plan of where to go...just a little further than the day before. We'd be gone for hours. No one had a watch but, somehow, we knew when it was time for lunch or dinner and would return home. PB and J sandwiches were the standard fare. Coke?? no way. It was water mostly but sometimes there was lemonade.

Oh yes, there were no pedophiles. There was, however, the mythical "boogie man" to look out for. ..whatever that meant. Happy

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Back in the day
Jun 27, 2007 5:29AM PDT

We lived within walking distance the Bay of Fundy, (coldest water I've been in) and the "beach" consisted of rocks as big as houses, very little sand.

Oil slick on the water, but that didn't bother us.

When the tide was out rocks were exposed and covered with seaweed and perriwinkles. We would pick perriwinkles and sell them, also dig for worms to go fishing with, then sell the fish. And buy candy with the cash.

Bicycle, playground and run around.

Built carts out of orange crates.

Whenever the circus came to town, we would go down after they cleared out, and we always found 'money, prizes other articles that dropped in the sawdust they used to put on the fairgrounds.

Saturday afternoon movies, Camp in the country for a couple of weeks in the summer.

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Lucky you
Jun 27, 2007 5:35AM PDT

Instead of working part time in the coal mine, it was full time during the summer break.

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Lucky? YES I was and stil am
Jun 27, 2007 6:08AM PDT

And appreciate it.

I didn't work in a coal mine but

A guy used to give me a nickel to go in Consumers Coal Yard and throw .pieces of coal into the water.

When the tide went out he would retrieve the coal.

The guy that delivered the coal had a horse drawn wagon, in the winter he hauled coal and in the summer he delivered ice blocks to people that could afford an Ice box"

We used to follow him around and get the ice chips when he broke the ice into smaller block.

No one suspected anything, a 8 or 10 year old kid throwing coal in the water.

When every one around you is in the same boat you don't realize you may be "poor"

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PS
Jun 27, 2007 6:26AM PDT

Perhaps I threw some of the coal you mined into the water.

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Sea coaling
Jun 27, 2007 8:24AM PDT

Can't find a good link but it was a controversial practice (maybe still is) in parts of the British Isles..particularly Northumberland if I remember correctly. Coal that washed ashore from the mines which were polluting the waters by tipping waste into the sea. This would be harvested and sold by "sea coalers". It was said to be a dangerous and competitive life. Sea currents were good at sorting the coal and bringing the best chunks to shore for collection into horse drawn carts. I think someone even made a movie about it. I know a Scottish group did a folk song of sorts about sea coaling.

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I really liked reading this
Jun 28, 2007 12:56AM PDT

It reminded me a lot of my childhood,in days of old!
Sorry i cant comment on the 'sea coalers' i havent head about that. A lot of my family & friends were miner though,so il ask them about it.

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If you get an answer, post back
Jun 28, 2007 1:32AM PDT

From what I can gather, "sea coaling" was a form of employment for the unemployed who were too proud to go on the dole. I'm not sure what their relationship was with regular miners. I imagine they were not well thought of. I tried to do a google search but mostly came up with dead links or sketchy information. A scottish group...I believe called "The Battlefield Band"... did a folk piece on it. I think it's interesting that music gives us such a different perspective of history than what we get from print.

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I will try to find out
Jun 28, 2007 1:45AM PDT

None of my grandparents are still alive so i might have to start with google or some local history. Il also see if any of my mining friends know anything about it.
Your right music does give us a completely different perspective than the text books,i can't live without music-but i definately can't live without tv,sad i know!

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Kind of a long but interesting read
Jun 28, 2007 1:52AM PDT
HERE but I don't have the background knowledge to fully understand it. Page 15 mentions sea coalers but doesn't say much about them. The article seems to give good information on the affects of coal mining, clean up efforts and controversies surrounding them.
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Another link and puzzle piece
Jun 28, 2007 2:04AM PDT
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Thats a very interesting article
Jun 28, 2007 3:01AM PDT

I can't understand why iv never heard of it. Well im in the middle of ridding my computer of little nasties,the computer im on at the moment is a little on the slow side,so once iv finished scanning il get right on it & see what i can dig up. BTW you don't seem to be doing to bad yourself..

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Another piece of the puzzle
Jun 28, 2007 3:42AM PDT

at http://www.johntickner.co.uk view the portfolio page,then general travel & seacoalers will be in the drop down list. I only live a few miles away from the National Coal Mining Museum,i never thought of that..

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Nice catch
Jun 28, 2007 4:09AM PDT

and thanks for sharing. Good pictures too. Happy

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a semi-link here
Jun 29, 2007 2:06AM PDT
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Another "coal" story
Jun 29, 2007 12:03AM PDT

Don't you hate it when you are expecting a wonderful Christmas gift, and with all of the excitement and anticipation, all you get is a lump of coal in your stocking?"

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You'd hate it even more
Jun 29, 2007 12:37AM PDT

When a lump of coal IS a wonderful Christmas Gift.

If I didn't get a lump of coal at Christmas it would be a cold day.

Did you get a lump of coal at Christmas?

Because your "Santa" was poor?

Because you were a bad little duckling?

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Lump of coal
Jun 29, 2007 1:06AM PDT
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Always a good little duck
Jun 29, 2007 2:43AM PDT

Although a few lumps of coal would have been useful when we ran out of heating oil and the driver would only take cash.