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No more bottled water Flint MI, Nestle gets free water.

by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 9, 2018 2:40 PM PDT

In memes.

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Well, snopes says the Nestlé pic is untrue.
by drpruner / April 9, 2018 4:19 PM PDT

Still, what he did say came straight from the 1% scriptbook, as i understand it.
The markup is very high, among _all_ commercial bottlers.
Bottling water in plastic at small amounts is an ecologist's nightmare. Inefficient; more plastic.
The markup does not come from locals in India or Niger giving over their water. Government officials do the deals, and take it from them.
My answer, and I'll have to tell you, because you'll never ever guess, never in million years, is to get a government that can supply drinking water everywhere, free, as a right to its people, after removing from the earth all those wicked men of the kind that now produces our problems.
"... and he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth."

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Thanks for the update.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 9, 2018 4:24 PM PDT
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Many analysts have predicted water wars in our
by drpruner / April 9, 2018 4:23 PM PDT

future like the ones in the Old West, but among nations.

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Close to home.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 9, 2018 4:32 PM PDT

I see constant bickering with USA and Mexico. Both on water rights which started long ago when the water supply was vastly over estimated. Even if all of the river went to Mexico, turns out we would not meet the agreement. This agreement should have been rendered moot and started over.

And then there are so many other examples like China and India. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41303082

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Good catch. When I lived in CA,
by drpruner / April 11, 2018 7:15 PM PDT
In reply to: Close to home.

I was up on it more because of Mexico vs. Bakersfield vs. L.A. housing developments. The fact that it still simmers points up what I was saying, and how hard it is to keep up with all the disasters. Politicians are expected to do that for their people, but usually fail at least in part. 'Water rights? Listen, I got this porn actress/Benghazi to deal with.'
Oglalla basin isn't getting any refills, last I heard.
China also has a severe corruption problem in its public works system. An earthquake will crumble a school, while the building inspector's upscale home stands firm, in the same subdivision. It's of interest that their new guy, the world's latest god/dictator, got his initial creds with the public via a ruthless, and maybe successful, anti-corruption program. Corrupt officials were removed. K.i.l.l.e.d; removed.

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(NT) Oglalla Aquifer
by drpruner / April 11, 2018 7:17 PM PDT
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Thanks for the link. I should have seen and noted it then.
by drpruner / April 11, 2018 9:23 PM PDT
In reply to: Close to home.

IMO the data gap was deliberate. I don't know how the Chinese could have failed to foresee Bangladesh's reveal, and it does tie in with another development in Chinese statecraft. A version of the old Dulles and Dulles ploy of the Fifties. 'See how well we take care of our friends? Remember that, the next time we're in conflict with your neighbor.'
Bangladesh gets the message, and so does India. I've noticed it happening in the strangest places, far from China, and then I remembered the Dulleses. US was/is even more isolated from the majority landmasses, but we still had "allies" in Arabia e.g. which doesn't have water. But, it's gold is black, I'm told. Happy
That monsoon season is absolutely necessary for even such survival as those countries eke out. It's also a Guaranteed Annual Disaster for those same farmers, none of whose gods seem able to help. Add: Same people in Bangladesh strip the mountains of trees to cook their food [barely eked out, did I mention?], so half the hill comes down on them also.
There's a think tank called the Jamestown Foundation, [ http://www.jamestown.org/ , which I think will pass your link checking] that has many long reads on that part of the world. It reads as hard news but is presented honestly as commentary. I haven't detected any biases in particular. Got more on the South China Sea than even Reuters. I enjoy reading it even though the smallest problems it covers are beyond my abilities to help. And Trump's too. Happy That's where I get my knowledge of the area, which has matched other sources so far.
Thanks again for the link. Didja notice the man in the picture is NOT a diplomat, soldier or dictator? Just one of us.

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Another long read on Flint et al.
by drpruner / April 11, 2018 3:43 PM PDT

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/03/12/health/lead-exposure-cardiovascular-disease-study/index.html

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No one mentioned it, so I will, re the second pic.
by drpruner / April 11, 2018 7:22 PM PDT

Remember the meeting in the movie*, with the lawyers and the polluting utility company? Glasses of water set out; she said, 'This comes from the water you say is safe'. Nobody drank.
Suggestion: Call a meeting in Flint...

* Forgot the name; y'all know it. Hey, I'm old! Gimme a break!

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Comparing costs today. MEME version again.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 15, 2018 3:48 PM PDT

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(NT) Bad government.
by drpruner / April 15, 2018 4:00 PM PDT
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The figure from the first time was $1.5 million.
by drpruner / April 15, 2018 4:03 PM PDT

But, who's counting? Sleeping safely in our beds at night is worth it, right?

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To really see what Flint saved.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 15, 2018 4:28 PM PDT
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