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Next Episode - Bandwidth - Got Questions?

I'll do my best to straighten up the confusion about this much abused word.

We'll talk data rate, data transfer,actual bandwidth and more.

Any network engineers who want to jump in and give their favorite way of explaining, or pet peeve with current usage, by all means do.

You can also leave voicemail at 877-600-cnet.

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Divide by 8!

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Please remind people that if they want to calculate how much they can download per second, and their connection is listed as 8 MegaBIT, they have to divide the connection by 8, so one MegaBYTE per second (however your connection will rarely reach this due to shared connection problems, copper limitations). The average connection is a 150K per second.

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There's talk in my country that many providers are blocking P2p. I read that there are many ways to do that (via the modems distributed to users, via they're own hardware, cheking ports, cheking packets transfered). More insight in the issue would be appreciated.

Also, a background on where the internet provision business is coming from would be good (as in: 1st: there was metered dial-up, then unlimited dial-up, then broadband, now metered?. On wednesday's BOL Tom mentioned the same rationale regarding SMS pricing). On this issue, two years ago a major provider of ADSL in Argentin tried to impose metered bandwidth, but a client boycott stop them from doing so. Truth to be said, upon mandatory transition to metered bandwidth, it was almost impossible for light users to end with cheaper and not slower plans, as higher speed plans were tied to higher data per month.

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Metered Bandwidth

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While I always try to avoid duplicating messages between forums, this specific message I posted in the BOL forum is also quite valid for the next episode of Real Deal. So...

I don't see the point in metered usage fees at all and they only serve to cause the consumer more headaches and, at the same time, force the consumer into paying unknowing overage charges. Why do I have to begin keeping track of my usage? The point to the Internet is and should be all-you-can-eat rather than capped usage. If you're going to cap something, cap the bandwidth speed, not the usage. Requiring users to keep track of the amount of bits consumed is like trying to keep track of how many minutes you use on a cell phone.

For the companies, this 'usage' model is a gold mine. It's a way to 'trick' you into paying exorbitant fees that you are unaware of until it's too late and you've already consumed it. There is no usage meter on Windows that you can actively keep track of in any useful or consumer-friendly way before you get raked over the coals for overage charges.

Instead, for the hogs, I suggest lowering their individual bandwidth speed dynamically. Once they approach 100Gb per month (or whatever limit is considered too much over a period of time), lower the throughput to 1-2Mbps (or less) instead of 5-10. This has the effect of capping how much you can download at once and, at the same time, prevents overage charges to unknowing consumers.

Once again, this issue has caused a knee jerk reaction to the abuserhogs by the carriers and all the rest of us who play by the rules have to suffer the consequences of the actions of a few people.

For once, I'd like to see companies do the RIGHT thing and set up a program that benefits the users abiding by the rules and punishing only those who do not. Instead, these companies insist on punishing everyone equally to tackle a problem caused by a handful of people.

No, I do not like the idea of metered internet. I'd prefer to see them cap the bandwidth speed, not the number of bits used. Capping the bandwidth speed automatically limits the amount of data you can download over a period of time and prevents the abusers from hogging the bandwidth constantly.

Brian W.

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Download Limit=Total bandwidth limit

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Here in the UK many ISP's offer you a cheaper package if you are willing to have a monthly download limit (the standard was 2-8 Gigs a couple of years ago, but is moving closer to 40GB now). Many people don't realise that in most cases, although the limit is termed "download", it actually means "total bandwidth", which includes uploads, incomplete downloads, unsolicited traffic thrown at your connection (eg: from hackers or malevolent programs on the net), and the re-sending of lost packets.

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