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newbie questions about RAID 1

Sep 3, 2010 11:27AM PDT

I recently had my PC crash during a storm and had to reinstall everything (documents were safe on a separate drive).

I have reinstalled almost all of the software I need and bought extra hard drives to setup RAID 1. I'm using a Seagate Barracuda 80 GB for system and 250 GB for docs, and bought two extra of each. Using Win XP SP 3.

I have been reading forums online and came across info stating that I need to convert my basic disk configuration to dynamic disk before setting up RAID.

Can I do this with the OS already installed?

Can RAID be setup independently for both system and document drives?

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Why RAID 1? It's not that safe.
Sep 3, 2010 8:52PM PDT

After years of using various RAIDs and watching folk still lose it all on RAID 1 I'm going to ask you why RAID 1 and not a simple copy of your files to the other drive?

RAID 1 common failures:

1. The owner deletes files. The files are gone from both drives.
2. The file system corrupts. Both drives now hold the corrupted file system.
3. A virus hits the machine. Both drives are wiped out in parallel.

And the biggy!
4. A drive fails in the RAID 1 setup. The owner can't find instructions on how to use the working drive. (good as no backup!)

The list goes on and on with the point being there is little safety in RAID 1. The simpler copy the files to the second drive has proven to be safer and easier for folk to deal with.
Bob

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RAID1 pros and cons
Sep 4, 2010 2:37AM PDT

Thanks for the feedback Bob, your cautions are well taken. You are probably right that a daily backup of my thesis files would be as good as, or better than, a RAID1 system. I also now have them backed up to a USB drive which I store in a fireproof safe. A little paranoid? Yes, so close to finishing, I am! Happy

My old system became corrupt because power failed while shutting down in a storm. I now have backup power which has already saved me twice.

I feel relatively safe about virus protection with 3 apps running, and docs on a separate drive.

The other question is restoring the system drive in RAID1. My understanding is that RAID1 would allow the OS to be completely restored even if one drive failed, saving the hassle of reinstalling all my software and settings. Is this true, and how complicated / time-consuming is this in practice?

The other option I have heard pros and cons about is Ghost. What is your opinion of Ghost vs. RAID1 for the system drive?

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About Ghost.
Sep 4, 2010 3:54AM PDT

Sorry that's a title I haven't used in years. It failed me too many times so I moved on. I now use CLONEZILLA and if the RAID is a hardware RAID then there is no issue. However I can not suggest any home user look at RAID 1. The benefits are not there compared to simpler solutions.
Bob

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Conezilla versus Ghost
Sep 4, 2010 5:03AM PDT

Thanks for the feedback on RAID and Ghost and the recommendation of Clonezilla, I will research this option a little more.

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Follow up cloning question
Sep 5, 2010 5:59AM PDT

I just read a comment today on another site stating I might need to contact Microsoft by phone and obtain a reactivation key after cloning Win XP. Is this true? If so, I can't imagine it being "painless" as they describe.

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For me? Never had to do that.
Sep 5, 2010 6:27AM PDT

But I didn't do anything odd like clone it and try to boot the clone in another machine!

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Reactivation of cloned XP / Acronis vs Clonezilla
Sep 5, 2010 7:18AM PDT

I don't think they were booting in another machine either. I can post the link if it's not against the rules. Maybe they were just being extremely cautious as to what *might* happen. The first time they mentioned it they said it was unlikely but later it seemed to assume this would need to be done. I have no interest in calling Microsoft for any reason.

I'm continuing to review older posts on Cnet which I noticed you contributed to significantly. You seem to have migrated from Ghost to Acronis to g4u and now Clonezilla. I might have missed some steps... Happy

I just watched a Youtube comparison of Acronis and Clonezilla and the conclusion was it's a toss-up but helpful to have Linux experience with Clonezilla, which I don't. So I'm leaning towards Acronis. Is this accurate in your opinion?

BTW, I don't care if I have to pay $50 for something that is easy to use and reliable instead of getting it for free. I just want to minimize down time in a crash.

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Odd.
Sep 5, 2010 7:37AM PDT

Activation under normal situation is automated and even when it required a human at Microsoft never incurred a fee. Go figure.

BTW if you let people do the Chicken Little fretting they will tell you thing like adding ram causes activation. Go figure.
Bob

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no XP activation fee / cloning software usability
Sep 5, 2010 9:12AM PDT

My last comment might have been clear. The $50 I mentioned was for purchasing Acronis not an activation fee for Microsoft.

So how about the usability of Clonezilla versus Acronis... is the Linux experience a factor (I have none)?

All I want to do is have a system disk ready to replace one that fails. Simple and reliable is the main goal.

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correction to my post
Sep 5, 2010 9:13AM PDT

In my previous post I meant to say "My last comment might NOT have been clear".

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Sorry.
Sep 5, 2010 11:32AM PDT

I have not been using Ghost or Acronis for a very long time now that Clonezilla and Gparted have matured.

However there are some that need a mouse interface or they are lost. Clonezilla uses the old pick an item from a list interface. For me it seems easy.

Clonezilla uses Linux? Given how many times I use Clonezilla I can't say I every would write that any Linux knowledge is needed.
Bob