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New York on track to shut down coal plants by end of 2020.

That's not that long from now.

In spite of such declines the US Gov attempts to show increases in coal. for example is titled "U.S. production and use of refined coal continues to increase".

Exports did go up as noted at but US consumption is falling.

Mongolia has the dirtiest air in a city where people burn raw coal.
This is nothing new as they have this distinction from over a decade ago. Respiratory and lung issues are common there.

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Small milestone but...
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And a Stone Henge rock returned too.

What a week!

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All's good here. Grin When I think about our heritage with coal and me being from the valleys, most people I know were miners.

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Watching a broadcast of a Euro rugby tournament.

One commentator on the pregame show was an ex-player.
The guy had no neck!!!
Spoke good English, though.

Len and Sar (whoever they are) are 10-10 at the half.

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Now, that is amazing!

Roddy Macdowell would be so happy. Happy

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Clinging to Coal special on CBS.
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Change is almost always expensive to some.

Can't give a blanket condenmation to those who oppose it.

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Is going to happen.

I've seen some big changes just in my life time.

I come from a small town that was built around paper mills.
Generations of people worked at the mills.
When the mills closed there was great upheaval.

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New England went through the same

when textile manufacturing moved overseas.
And, what's the Midwest called? Oh, yeah. The Rust Belt.

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Will need to adapt as industry moves around the world.

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Coal is an energy source from the past

Cities/states/countries will slowly move away from it.

Some folks will fight the change but I doubt they will win.

Not that I can see the future but I suspect the same will happen to ICE.

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Source from the past?

The way many scientists and others speak of the earth's many cycles, coal could also be the energy of the future. Or, perhaps the next (semi)-intelligent life forms could be on Venus and discover coal there. After all, isn't its atmosphere mostly CO2 as may have been our earth's?

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(NT) Looked at the estimated surface temp there?
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I'll answer your question with another question or two.

As the sun burns itself out, will the surface temperature be reduced? Aren't there those who think Mars might have once held life forms? We can't know but maybe we earthlings find that conjecture and arguments are a good way to pass the time. Of course that time is shorter than a snap of the finger when compared to that of eternity.

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Re: sun

The future of the sun, as told in is that it will become a 'red giant' in 5 billion years (that's somewhat more than the current age of the earth) and possibly swallow Venus and the Earth then, assuming they still circle around the Sun at the same distance as now.

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Long before that End,

the decreasing distance to the Sun's surface will make earth uninhabitable. (Red is cooler than the current yellow, but still deadly at the new distance.)

Remember, the amount of solar (coming in a straight line) that makes life what it is, is a tiny fraction of what the sun produces.

And bumblebees can't fly.

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Energy of the future

If it is it won't be for a society that looks anything like what we have today.

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I daw the Mongolia video just the other day.

Very sad. Why do our adult bad decisions always take it out on the children?

One takeaway I had was that it's unsolvable by the Mongolian government. Not even by 'throwing money at the problem'.

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The Navajo Res here has a nice little pocket

of coal. They dig it and transport it to utilities via unit trains, like a little W. Va.
Not sure what the cleanness is.

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