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As a "value" converned person, it's a no-brainer for me.
Do you really think the new model will be substantially better? It'll likely be 1080 instead of 720. A well price reduced Panasonic is a bargain. A well priced reduced Pioneer, perhaps even moreso. Give me a really low priced & good Panny or Pio 720 & i'll be very happy indeed.
That's cheap for a 50" plasma
I thought the 50" + 1080p plasmas were $3500 and up. $2000?? Sounds like a bargin.
50" 1080p, $2100 all day long
Contemplating next years models. Doing so will keep you from ever purchasing one. You'll always be wondering what if. Like Bill said, the differences between the years and models are trifle currently. Between now and two years ago and maybe now and a couple of years out,then you may have significant changes or upgrades. Find a deal and buy. If you like 720p checkout "directbuyelectronics","Lamonitors" or "Laplasma" which is the same. I bought a little over three years ago from Laplasma and picked it up. They do ship.
JUST MY GUESS, BUT THE PANASONIC TH-50PZ85U.............
WILL REPLACE THE PANNY TH-50PX75U, THEIR ENTRY LEVEL 50" PLASMA.
IN PANASONIC NOMICLATURE, "PZ" INDICATES 1080P RESOLUTION.
BASED ON PREVIOUS PANASONIC UP-DATES........ WE SHOULD EXPECT NEW MODELS TO CARRY THESE MODEL NUMBERS (JUST GUESSING.........)
TH-xxPZ85U replaces TH-xxPX75U
TH-xxPZ88U replaces TH-xxPZ77U
TH-xxPZ800U replaces TH-xxPZ700U
TH-xxPZ850U replaces TH-xxPX750U
Keep in mind these model numbers are only based on internet HUB-BUB!
There's been rumors of the following.... TH-58"/65"/103" PZ888Us.
BIRDDOG, I'D go for the PANNY TH-50PZ700U. That's a great price.
Wait for "MARCH MADNESS" SALES, college basketball; coinsides with
deep discounts and new model INTROs.
BUY A YOURSELF BARGAIN!!!
COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES.............
SO, YOU ARE IMPRESSED BY THE "STATIC CONTRAST RATIO" @ 30,000:1.
AS OPPOSED TO "CONTRAST RATIO" @ 15,000:1.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE???
MARKETING TOOL AT ITS BEST!
I wonder if static contrast ratio
is actually on/off contrast ratio. The other two "contrast ratios" are intra-scene and ANSI. The 3 together help combine to make the final "contrast ratio". I think the best ANSI yet has been Pioneer Kuro's at around 3k : 1. The JVC projectors have a 15k:1 on/off ratio.
Can you net out your comment?
Will the increased contrast ratio spec on the new model (85U) be worth the wait and added cost (approx. $300ish dollars)? Apparently the new 50" model will not be available until late April/May. Appreciate the feedback. I'm a novice at this but want to make a well imformed purchase.
30k:1 good lord thats a lota contrast
the human eye is about 800:1. so whats all this fuss hummmm?
MARKETING mubojumbo baby.
They're available for order on Amazon.com as of Feb 19th
Can't speak to the TH 50 specifically but I recently bought the Panasonic TH-65PX600U and it is the best ever. Watching HD on this set is like being there. I checked out lots of internet sites and then got mine from bestbuypcs.com (no connection with Best Buy). Best Buy wanted 10K, I got mine for 7.5K from bestbuypcs.com. Helpful sales guy and great shipping.
BEAUTIFUL HDTV YOU HAVE THERE. I BOUGHT THE TH-58PX600U,...
AND LOVE IT, HOWEVER THEY ARE BOTH 2006 MODELS w/720p-1080i resolution. Almost all PANASONIC plasma sets for 2007 & 2008 are 1080p.
No matter, I'm pleased to smithereens with my purchase. I bought mine from "ONE CALL" for $2,500. Good deal and free shipping.
Price for new Panasonic 85U - $2000.?
Where did youm see this price? The only early order advertised price I've seen is 2669.00.
BTW: If you are going to but this years model the 750U is a better deal. I've seen it within 150. dollars, if you can find it.
Anyone have an idea to when will their new 46 inchers will come out?
The Panasonic website states early April, but I saw in another forum that someone is having a TH-50PZ85U deliver Wednesday 2/27/08; so you may be able to order it now. If you can get an EPP price, the 46" will be < $1600 +tax. MSRP $2,200
I believe it stands for Employee Purchase Plan
I'm pining for the Panasonic 46PZ85U
...hoping it'll come in 'round $1700 on sale before too long.
Question: anyone have an opinion on using an HTPC with a 720P screen? I might use my screen for gaming, too, so I don't want to be limited to a resolution lower than my graphics card can handle.
Price for new Panasonic 85U - $2000.?
$1,944 is thru EPP, if you're eligible. I checked it out today.
TH-50PZ85U being delivered next week - $2000
I am scheduled to recieve my TH-50PZ85U on Wednesday, March 5! Bought direct from Panasonic through the EPP for $2002.32 (before tax), plus free shipping! I will let you know how it looks and compare to the TH-50PX60U that my brother has.
CONGRATS ON YOUR PURCHASE!!!
HOPE IT LOOKS AS GOOD AS ANTICIPATED........ LET US ALL KNOW WHAT YOU
THINK AFTER A COUPLE HUNDRED WARM-UP HOURS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE, FOR YOUR REVIEW.........
Panasonic prices for Z80U & Z85U series
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TH-46PZ85U Price $1631.52 TH-46PZ80U Price $1545.00
Price reductions also for the 50" and 42" sizes.
Panasonic or PIoneer
While you may buy the Panasonic cheaper than the Pioneer, it is like buying a Toyota Camry vs. buying a BMW. The Pioneer 720 model (actually 768) has a scaler circuit which can scale the video signal of a Blu Ray to 1080P and look really great. Pioneer has the blackest black levels of any tv on the market. If price is your main consideration, then choose the Panasonic.
Camry vs. BMW - That's funny, Mr. Paul
Hilarious post, Mr. Paul...obviously written by someone who made the mistake of buying a Pioneer 720p model - a model that's rated lower in Consumer Reports than the Panasonic 720p models, not to mention the 1080p variety. Look who bought the Camry.
Just look at the screens and you can see a difference. I don't care what's on paper. I think the Pioneer has a better picture than the Panasonic. It does all come down to the blacks. However, I'm anxious to see the new Panasonic with it's higher contrast ratio.
I have the 77U and have owned it since December. It is a great set and I have no reservations about my purchase. I have read others complained about a clicking noise, I havent noticed one. I Think you have to decide what you are using it for and your budget. I dont think I will go the blue ray route, I have too many movies on conventional dvd's to go out and buy them again (if they were all available) on blue ray. If blue ray is what you really want maybe you should spend more and buy the more expensive set but I would really compare the two when using a blue ray player, I have been told it really doesnt make a huge difference but again I havent done that so check it out for yourself. As far as regular tv no one is broadcasting in 1080p and wont. It takes too much bandwith. Another thought is that you can buy TWO 77U tvs for almost the same price as the other set. What I would really like to see is first run movies (leagaly) downloadable on the internet so I could watch them at home without going to the theater, but that is many years off I think. for now I will just enjoy my 77U, it has a great picture, and great sound (if you dont want to use your sound system you dont have to).
I dont have a plasma myself because ive beentold by someone who works with tvs that they are not as reliable as hd ready tvs , i was going to buy one my self untill my friend advised me not to he said he would never touch them because they onlt tend to last 12 months thenyou start having problems with the picture, colour ect, but the choice is your, i would not entertain them myself.
In response by mikey7353
1. Just because someone that sells TV's thinks Plasma TV's are bad doesn't make it so. Consumer Reports rates Panasonic Plasma TV failure rate a 2%, less than LCD, LCoS or any other type out there.
2. Plasma TV's are HD ready TV's, along with LCD, LCoS and all flat screen TV's sold by now.
3. Plasma TV's are rated for 40.000 to 100.000 hours of use, more TV than you can watch for 20 years.
Unfortunately, just because someone makes a statement doesn't make it a fact. LCD or Plasma are both a perfectly acceptable choice, and the differences are getting to be so trivial that it is simply a matter of size and personal preference.
The display category leaders for plasma (Panasonic and Pioneer) and for LCD (Sony and Sharp) produce excellent screens that most people will be very happy with for many years to come.
The differences between this years and last years models are usually so small that the average consumer will never notice the difference.
The difference between the PH and the PZ models (720P vs 1080P) tends not to be worth the price premium unless you start getting a 58" or bigger screen, since most people can't tell the difference from normal viewing distances.
The biggest complaint before, was people buying a smaller screen than they would have preferred in hindsight, a problem mostly disappearing with screen prices dropping drastically and even 58" screens available for just over $2k.
In the meantime, relax and enjoy your screen.
FIND A FRIEND WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT PLASMAS.............
Ah I'm actually trying to make this same decision. I cant decide if I should just pick up the Pioneer 5080 now or wait for the Panasonic 50z85.
It is true the Pioneer even at 720 is still better picture then the panasonics because of the better black levels.
I would rather have a 1080p as Im mostly playing games, blueray and hooking computer to it but If the new Panasoincs are not on par with 2007 pioneers then theres no point. I would love to see reviews on the new sets to see how these new 2008 Panasoincs compare.
Anyone see the 50z85 yet? Is it worth the wait?