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New IE7 PITA

Aug 1, 2007 10:33AM PDT

It comes with Google already installed next to the address bar that now cannot be moved from the top where File, Edit used to be...grrrr and it comes with a stupid Explorer toolbar that also is stationary as the third row now and can't be moved....grrrr

I use the LINKS menu as well so I had to drag it up to being next to File, Edit in order to not have four rows....grrrr

So, other than not being able to shuffle things where I am used to them being, I find that stupid Google doesn't have any settings I can play with so it opens a search in a new window. HUGE GRRRRRRR.

I already had the Google Toolbar installed that had LOTS of settings I could pick and choose from, and now I have some stupid tech guy in MS deciding FOR ME that I don't NEED no stinkin' settings. BUT in order to NOT have another row, I uninstalled the 'real' Google Toolbar.

Any suggestions or hints about this 'new' google stubborness?

TONI

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TONI
Aug 1, 2007 10:50AM PDT
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Well...
Aug 2, 2007 2:43AM PDT

By popular demand I added this guide to the Browsers sticky, one of just two posts at this point. Since you enabled the File menu you can use that post to remove the Command bar, and if you add the Google toolbar back you can remove the IE7 search toolbar. If you leave the search bar alone instead of going with Google toolbar you can use IE7PRO to force the search bar to display the results in the current tab/window by unchecking "Open new tab from search bar." I'm afraid I can't help in merging the Google toolbar with the address bar or tab toolbar, but between the registry edits and IE7PRO you should find at least some relief.

John

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Command Bar instructions
Aug 2, 2007 5:33AM PDT

Under Internet Explorer, I have no Command Bar...I only have CommandBar listed under Internet Explorer/LowRegistry instead. Should I create a new key under Internet Explorer for CommandBar and then proceed from there?

TONI

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Started over by deleting what I had
Aug 2, 2007 6:45AM PDT

originally created in the registry and got it all put into the correct areas and now everything is wehre I want it. I reinstalled my old Google toolbar and got my options back also.

Now the only thing I need to figure out is how to keep the Google toolbar next to the File, Edit line like it used to be. I can move it there, but it seems that once I close IE and re-open it, it's back on the line underneath File, Edit again. Minor malfunction I can live with if I'm stuck with it though and will keep manually moving it where I want it to be.

Thanks for the help guys....

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Just maybe....
Aug 2, 2007 7:15AM PDT
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My layout and the problem
Aug 2, 2007 8:28PM PDT

File, Edit on first line, Google toolbar (old one) next to it
Links toolbar on second line
Addressbar on third line

I can physically move any of the first three; however, I cannot lock the toolbars into place. As soon as I do, the Google toolbar immediately jumps to be the second line away from File, Edit so I end up with four lines instead of three.

If I leave Google on the first line, close IE, and reopen it, Google is again on the second line and I have to physically move it again to the first line.

I can't figure out how to keep it where I put it like it used to with IE6

TONI

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OK
Aug 2, 2007 8:57PM PDT
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What a joke
Aug 2, 2007 9:35PM PDT

First...I already got the file you menationed (reg type) that moved the File, Edit line to the top where I wanted it.

Second, I did the registry hacks to get rid of the IE toolbar and the preinstalled Google search that had no options for it. (doing away with the IE toolbar also took away my 'home' and 'email' buttons with no way to bring those back and the option of having the IE toolbar take up an entire line was/is ridiculous when some people like me only need two or three of the buttons available and IT STAYS LOCKED TO THAT SPOT taking up 'real estate' since it can't be moved somewhere more convenient)

Third, I reinstalled my old Google that has options and can move it to be next to File Edit on the first line, but as soon as I close IE, and reopen it, it is back in the second line position with no way to lock it where I want it.

Fourth, evidently the downloaded upgrade version of IE7 DOES NOT COME WITH CLASSIC MENU...that 'option' must be only available when you have Vista and it comes with stuff you don't get the privilege of having with the download.

I am beginning to suspect that I will be uninstalling IE7 and heading back to having things MY way again.

TONI

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LOL :)
Aug 2, 2007 9:57PM PDT

Yourself and many other people are having nothing but problems with IE7 and MS should be ashamed of themselves.How many hours were wasted dealing with an inferior product when you could have been doing other things,like relaxing after working hard all day.people have better things to do with their time then dealing with this crap.I use firefox myself.

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I have automatic updates to avoid having IE7 installed.I went through a lot of BS trying to avoid IE7,http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6132_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=225499&messageID=2358207#2358207

"then it said that i had to have the newest version of IE which is IE 7"

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"E7 DOES NOT COME WITH CLASSIC MENU...that 'option' must be only available when you have Vista and it comes with stuff you don't get the privilege of having with the download."

You're probably right.

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It's kinda like the hamburger ad
Aug 3, 2007 1:06AM PDT

of "have it your way", but if you try to change anything in our 'menu' we have ways to make sure you still get it OUR way. lol

If the MS site you linked to tells me I have options and then restricts me to where I can move the toolbars around, makes it difficult without a registry hack to trash the stuff I don't want, and doesn't give you the 'classic menu' option to begin with, I'm wondering WHERE ARE THE OPTIONS, MS?

I didn't realize how severely I relied upon the HOME and MAIL linked icons before until I realized I could not move the IE Explorer Toolbar and eliminate a line when I only needed two or three of those icons. I could customize until my face fell off, but I'd still be stuck with an immovable object that took up the real estate I've come to love.

Yep...uninstalling IE7 and going back to the 'good old stuff' and learning the lesson of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' all over again. IE7 won't see me again for a long, long time....probably when websites don't render anymore like what happened eventually with IE4 and IE5 but that took a long time, too.

TONI

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Remnants left over and IE7's stupidity
Aug 6, 2007 9:54PM PDT

Obviously you can't rely upon IE7's own internal check system.

While I had IE7 installed, if I got to a typical 'page cannot be found' error, it showed a 'diagnose connection problem' option.

Well, I never bothered and uninstalled IE7 from Add-Remove Programs and went back to IE6 in order to have it MY way....at least for the most part.

I got another 'page cannot be found' due to my connection speed since I had a few windows open at the same time, and just for the heck of it, clicked that now showing IE7 option which stuck around even after the uninstall, to diagnose the connection.

Guess what? It tells me to check the ethernet connection and make sure everything is hooked up correctly, and includes a picture of a router in case I'm using one. Is it too stupid to see that MY connection is a DIAL-UP MODEM?

This 'diagnosis' checker is totally useless if it cannot even detect WHAT KIND OF CONNECTION YOU HAVE, folks.

My 'fix'???? I right clicked the modem icon in the taskbar and disconnected the modem manually. Connected again from my shortcut I had created in my Quick Launch area, and got back on the net without the 'page cannot be found' garbage. Evidently my modem had actually lost the connection to my ISP but didn't disconnect the modem in order to get the auto-redial it's set up for. Simple fix...but not according to IE7.

So, the moral of the story is that Windows' error dialog boxes and screens are about as reliable as they were since the very first version of Windows years and years ago. Do your own trouble-shooting, use common sense, and head to these forums to get better information regarding any error screens you get since MS is still as obscure with reporting the problems and how to fix them as they have ever been.

TONI

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You really have a downer on IE7 don't you.
Aug 6, 2007 10:58PM PDT
Devil

It's a shame you can't get better than a dial-up connection for where you live Toni. I have to use dial-up sometimes when my broadband connection fails and it makes me remember how much patience I had to have with it, waiting for web sites to load.

A faster connection would perhaps have helped that IE7 stupidity from showing itself.

I guess I'm not helping much am I? Happy

Mark
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*big grin* have it your way
Aug 7, 2007 1:19AM PDT

a movie scene, the guy asks for toast,
"sorry sir...we don't serve toast"
the guy asks "do you have toasted cheese?"
"yes sir, we do"
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the guy says "OK, give me toasted cheese without the cheese"


(five easy pieces, jack nicholson?)

jonah

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I actually
Aug 7, 2007 6:11AM PDT

pictured that scene from the movie as I was typing my 'hamburger ad' reply. lol

TONI