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New HP dies overnight! Return it or have them fix it?

by sfjoyboy / August 1, 2005 12:17 PM PDT

Hi People,

I just bought a HP d4100y desktop from I set it up on Saturday night, configured my DSL, Outlook Express, installed my printer and scanner software and downloaded and installed Mozilla Firefox. Everything was working fine. I pressed the sleep button for the monitor, left the pc on and went to bed. The next morning when I got up it was frozen and the fan was on making quite a bit of noise. I turned it off, went out for a few hours and tried rebooting when I came back but got nothing but a black screen.
So, I called customer support. I didn't realize HP had outsourced their support just like Dell. I was on hold for over 20 minutes before someone answered (no surprise there). After a half an hour of disconnecting, reconnecting, shutting down and turning things off and on, it was finally determined that my motherboard had gone bad. So I'm expecting HP to have a simple solution at no cost to me but to my surprise the tech tells me she needs to send me a new motherboard and a technician along with it to ensure it doesn't get damaged during the shipping process and this was gonna cost me $29.99 for the technician.
Of course I told her this was ridiculous as it was a brand new computer and it should be covered under warranty. She again tried to explain how the motherboard was very delicate and if she mailed it without the technician that it might get damaged. My HP warranty covers the actual part but not the cost of sending the technician. (I was envisioning a huge box being delivered and when I open it up, an actual live technician would pop out cradling the motherboard in his arms like a baby. Would I get to keep this technician for my own personal use? What do you feed them anyway?)
I didn't understand this as my warranty says 1 year parts AND labor. I again told her that this was unacceptable for me to have to pay for anything at this point since the mb was obviously defective. I told her I'd just as soon return the computer and be done with it. She then told me there was another option (as if it slipped her mind) where she would send me a box for the pc, then Fed Ex would come pick it up, deliver it to a HP repair center and then deliver it back to me within 9 days at no charge. I said that would be fine. Then I had to wait for about five minutes on hold while she placed the order.
I was still a bit unsure of what was happening so I asked her why she was sending me a box because I just opened my pc last night and of course I still have the box. "Oh," she said, " I guess I should have asked you that before I placed the order. Don't worry though, it will only take a day or two for the new box to arrive and I can't change the order now since it's already been entered in our system." Aghhh!!!
Anyway, now I'm thinking I might want to just return the computer to HP rather than have them replace the motherboard. After all, I paid top dollar for a new computer, not a refurbished one. I'm also worried that there might be other problems caused by the motherboard going. I also just saw virtually the same computer, except in a Gateway box, advertised at Circuit City. It came with Media Center (mine has XP Home) a printer and an extra DVD drive and cost about $400 less. What woud you guys do?

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Return it and get the Gateway...
by John.Wilkinson / August 1, 2005 1:01 PM PDT

I've been using HP products for over a decade now, but never had that much bad luck with them. In fact, I've only had a few problems, and always received excellent support. On one occasion when my computer started acting up and troubleshooting didn't solve it, they offered to pay for shipping and guarenteed repair by the end of the week. (They never offered to ship me an inflatable repairman, which, by the way, eats crisp 20-dollar bills. ;)) I decided to check some other things first, and found out it was due to a corrupted BIOS update a few days earlier. Glad to know they were so willing to help, but glad I didn't lose my computer for a week.

However, in your case, it sounds like you're getting the royal flush...along with your pocketbook and technological security. They sent you a lemon, don't want to fully admit it, and tried to avoid paying for shipping expenses as well as the replacement part by ''forgetting'' to mention it. I love HP, but even I wouldn't go along with all that. Since the motherboard was faulty, I'd immediately question (as you did) what else might be wrong, and reqest a new PC, not just a replacement part. There is a reason ''remanufactured'' PCs only come with a 90-day warrenty, even though all damaged parts have been replaced.

Since Circuit City's sale on the Gateway is better than what you got, and for less money, I'd definately send it back with a note attached...''I would like to return your faulty product, and request that you forward my check to Gateway, c/o Circuit City.'' Just explain that you've had a bad experience with them, don't want to chance having another damaged computer sent, and that you've found a better deal elsewhere. Hopefully they'll understand and refund your money. If not, don't settle for less than a new computer, and don't pay a penny for shipping, repairs, or pet repairmen. Wink

Hope this helps,

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Return it and get the Gateway...
by jcrobso / August 2, 2005 2:14 AM PDT

Yes RETURN it. Only accept repair after the return policy time period in over.

(They never offered to ship me an inflatable repairman, which, by the way, eats crisp 20-dollar bills. Wink
Note: If they are not crisp, demands $50 bills instead. John

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by damasta55r / August 1, 2005 4:12 PM PDT

I have the sa4000T and been encountering beeps everyonce in a while and the computer will not post. First it started as 3 or 4 short beeps, now recently like today, i've received one short beep and 8 additional fast short beeps. R.Profitt said to use my warranty, but i've had my machine for 7 months and don't want them to reformat my hard drive. SInce, i have a temporary solution, that will allow the pc to startup, i will just leave it alone and not let the nusiance to get to me. Besides, i went to hp's site for it and it shows for the motherboard, it only cost $18 and i would have to send back the defective one. Sounds good to me... I cannot believe that hp/compaq will have motherboard problems with that model especially since every single one is customized directly from hp/compaq. I will never buy another hp/compaq. BUt go for emachines/gateway for my next computer, or rather build my own.


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re:motherboard $18?
by sfjoyboy / August 2, 2005 1:02 AM PDT
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Roger, are you saying they told you the motherboard costs $18 or did I misunderstand. The tech support lady I spoke with says the motherboards cost about $350. Both prices seem out of whack to me but then again, I don't know that much about computers.

John: Thanks for your input. The more and more I think about it the more I want to just return the pc and get a new one, this time from a local vendor so if there's a problem I can just bring it back.

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by damasta55r / August 2, 2005 11:50 AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Return it, you're having that much problems from day 1
by Willy / August 2, 2005 1:20 AM PDT
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