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Hi everyone,

I finally decided to buy my very first camera but I can’t really pick one. Can someone give me an Hand please? I defo want it to be full frame and my budget is between 1000 and 1600 €.


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Your goals are missing here outside the price.

Some folk want to make YouTubes, some selfies, landscapes, indoor and more shots.

I have to write that while my DSLR with 3 lenses does a lot, I don't use it as much now that my smart phone camera takes great pictures plus it's less work to get the photos off the phone and where I want them.

My DSLR: Canon t6i with stock lens, 40mm and a 55 to 250mm.
Phone(s): Moto G 5th Gen Plus and iPhone 6.

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Camera purposes

My shots would mainly concern landscape and big subjects. I do have a go pro hero 7 and a phone that takes decent pictures but I'm never satisfied about the quality and I want something more than just point and shoot, that allow me to play a bit more.

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Then the Canon I have

Or similar would be next. I think a point and shoot would miss the point of why you are upgrading.

But having said that, if I rotate the knob to full auto on my t6i I can point and shoot.

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I meant that with my phone and go pro is only point and shoot and want something more than that. this is why I want to upgrade to a proper camera

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What about the Sony Alpha 600.
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Alpha 6000

The alpha6000 it's not full frame

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I see I missed a zero.

And yet folk seem to love the Alpha 6000 for the great shots they get. It's quite the picture taker in that form factor.

If you want to get into DSLR or mirrorless there are now a lot of fine choices. I will write that the 3 lenses I use along with a monopod and tripod seem to cover all the shooting I do today.

But then again I don't use the DSLR as much as the phone camera quality really went up.

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That budget and FULL FRAME?

I picked the first Full Frame from a google and it's

That's 3,000 bucks and we haven't added a lens.

Sorry but can you share a full frame and lens that you can get without having to mix lens from another maker and lose autofocus, etc?

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canon EOS RP w/ canon EF 24-105 mm

I was tempted to buy the new Canon EOS RP along with the Canon EF LENS zoom 24 mm - 105 mm( F/3.5-5),that I would need to purchase separately, but somebody told me that maybe it is not the best option to start with. what do you reckon?

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If that's what's in the budget.

But having watched others complain I stuck with Canon lenses (or Nikon for Nikon) because I don't want to be bothered that something doesn't work.

Also, the Canon lens shares lens data to the camera and if you adapt some non-Canon lens and even if you ADAPT a Canon lens that wasn't made for this Canon you find you degraded the picture. This information has prior discussions so I'll stop here.

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Full frame wide angle = expensive.

To do it well, the lens alone will be over your total budget of 1600 €. (And when you get into interchangeable lens cameras, it's usually more about the lens(es) than the camera body.)

Rule of thumb: the more glass/lenses a lens has (both inside and outside), the more expensive it is. Wide angle lenses need more glass to capture a wider field of view. Full frame lenses need more glass to cover a larger sensor with light. Add both of those together, and you get expensive pretty quickly.

If you insist on going full frame, IMO the best package that will do this decently without being crazy expensive (but likely still over your budget) is a Canon RP (and EF lens adapter) and Canon 17-40mm F4 L (because the 17-40mm is rectilinear (straight lines stay straight, for taking pics of big buildings) and the RP has an on-screen level (to help you keep the camera level, to avoid convergence, where buildings look like their leaning inwards) ).

But you'd likely be able to get results that are just as good for a lot less money if you go with an APS-C camera and a Canon 10-22mm or Tokina 11-16mm. (Full disclosure: I own a Tokina 11-16mm lens.) Or, if you're OK with manual focus (which, again, should be fine for stationary subjects like landscapes and buildings), a micro four thirds camera (some of which also have on-screen levels) and a Laowa 7.5mm. (Full disclosure: I own a Laowa 7.5mm lens.)

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Sony A6000 or Sony 6300

Have you check out the older sony's? I bought the A6300 and best decision I made. The A7riii is pretty beastly but for a solid budget cam the A6300 or A6500 is pretty outstanding. Here's some samples of the A6300.

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