need help with my computer

by surajprakash Jul 15, 2007 5:46PM PDT

Hi
My name is Prakash. I am an Interior designer I use max,maya,photoshop,autocad and other post production program for my job i have 2 computer for my work which has window xp with service pack 2 i have used this version of xp for my other computer also.I am facing prob with the 2 brand new com.
1>Intel core 2 duo processor 2 GB ram, 160 GB sata hard disk and 512mb. Nvidia Geforce 7300gs Pci express card.
2> Intel core 2 duo processor 2 GB ram, 160 GB sata hard disk and 512mb. Nvidia Geforce 7600gs Pci express card.
But I am facing same prob. With both the computers which is whenever I am using 2 or 3 program simultaneously naturally I am minimizing 1 window to open another window but after some time when I am opening the minimized window my computer shuts down and restart automatically or I have to start it again. With this prob. I am facing lots of prob.
Coz sometimes my files get corrupted for this I thought I am facing prob. With the memory card and Pci card so I changed both of them for both the computers.
But still it is giving me same prob. Sometimes it runs nicely sometimes it does these things for this I can?t leave my com. on its own to do some work like rendering things.
I can?t understand, this is the fastest com right now in the market why it is giving me this prob. Or does this core 2 duo processor have this prob.
Help me
Thanks

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by welrdelr Jul 16, 2007 8:10AM PDT

Windows does not support SMP in the kernel. You need this to run hardware with multicore chips or you will have the applications fight for CPU usage.
MUltiple desktops are a better solution. An application can be placed on each. Using a simplified windowmanger is also good. However, since you are using windows, you don't have these options.
Personally, I suggest a Linux or BSD distribution. Swap space would run the system process. Multiple desktops within a simple window manger take less memory than any Windows application. You can turn off most services to also save on memory, CPU, and kernel usage.Linux and *BSD come with SMP support for multicore CPUs.
I have 768M of RAM and can run the same amount of programs as you with very little trouble.

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Plain WRONG!

by Edward ODaniel Jul 17, 2007 2:37AM PDT

Windows XP and Vista both have kernel support for SMP.

Regardless of whether the actual application is designed for multiple processors or not the Windows XP or Vista machine with multiple processors can take full advantage of them and afinity can be set manually or programatically.

Linus and BSD can indeed "run the same amount of programs" but neither can run the same programs this person REQUIRES (nor is there a realistic alternative for Maya).

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there is

by welrdelr Jul 17, 2007 10:59AM PDT

Blender and k3b for creating 3d modeling. There is yafray, aqsis, and pixelize for rendering engines along with compatibility with povray.
I use all of them.
Windows does not have SMP support that is evenly distributed with the processor either one or the other will be used more, not both equally.
3d software requires rendering engines for different effects.

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You need to find out why they are restarting.

by MarkFlax Former Forum moderator Jul 16, 2007 8:33AM PDT

You can change the setting that forces Windows to restart when the system fails.

You need to access the System Properties dialog to disable this. Press the Windows key + the Pause/Break key together, (alternatively right click the My Computer icon and select Properties). In the System Properties dialog click the Advanced tab, then click the Settings button for "Startup and Recovery". In the new dialog window remove the tick where it says "Automatically restart" under System failure.

That stops the system from restarting on an error and may give you time and opportunity to investage what is causing the crash.

You could also look at the Event Viewer. Goto Start > Run, type in eventvwr.msc and click OK. Look under System for any errors reported, highlight them then right click and select Properties for more information.

I hope that helps.

By the way, I am not sure 512MB of RAM is sufficient for the work you are doing. Auto Cad is very memory intensive and if you have insufficient memory the program will be swapping in and out to the virtual memory on the hard disk all the time.

That might be a clue. Check to see what Virtual Memory, (also known as the Page File), your computers have been set to. You can do that in System Properties > Advanced tab again, but this time check the settings under "Performance", (click the Advanced tab in the new window).

Mark

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Mark he has 2gig of Ram

by anmor Jul 16, 2007 9:28AM PDT

the 512mg refers to memory on his video card.

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Ohh yes!!

by MarkFlax Former Forum moderator Jul 16, 2007 6:57PM PDT

I feel silly now,

It was staring right at me. Thanks for that anmor.

It might still be just as well for Prakash to check his Virtual Memory, just to make sure it is not set at too low a level. Usually we suggest that Windows knows best and should handle it, but possibly someone has set it manually to a too low figure.

Mark

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thanks

by surajprakash Jul 17, 2007 2:48AM PDT

thanks for all the comments i will check all the things u guys said
and will come back.
lets see what happens

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Marl's advice is good - ESPECIALLY ...

by Edward ODaniel Jul 17, 2007 2:44AM PDT

about 512 meg of RAM being rather limiting (especially on a dual core system) - boost the ram on both to one or two GIG.

Try turning OFF any screensavers and disable any powers saving settings in both BIOS and in Control Panel. That will eliminate problems caused by screensavers and also by power settings.

If that solves the problem you will want to check for possible BIOS updates for poser saving compatibility.

If it doesn't help it is quite possible that things are overheating. Take the covers off the computer and direct a floor fan to blow into the case while it is running. If that takes care of the problem then look around for a good cooling system. Personally I haven't found a cooling system that beats a 16 inch floor fan.

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hi there

by surajprakash Jul 17, 2007 3:42PM PDT

hey guys 1st of all edward i have 3 fan installed for cooling and my fool room is chilled with ac i dont need the table fan and by the way the side panel is also open,and i have 2gb of ddr ram and 512mb vga card and i dont have any screensavers i know i eats memory.
and mark i have tried the system restart mode i changed it and it goes to the blue page when it crashes but it doesnt help me it gives only the information about my windows nothing else
guys there is some diff. prob i have some normal com mean p4 3.6gig.
those r running perfectly i have only prob with this 2
i do the same amount work with others but there is no prob
i think this vga card is not good for core 2 duo processor.
i dont know

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Let us have more information about that Blue Screen

by MarkFlax Former Forum moderator Jul 17, 2007 6:34PM PDT

Hi Prakash

That Blue Screen of Death, (BSOD), may hold important information about why an application is halting your computer. That's why I had you change that setting to stop the computer restarting automatically.

Tell us more about the BSOD. Is there a STOP Error code? If so, which one?

Also, what does the Event Viewer say about any problems at the time these errors happen?

Mark

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