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These are not gaming machines so...

It's a close call either way. Another issue is that both have reports of overheating when people run them 24x7 or when gaming. These are not desktop replacements so you'll want a laptop cooling pad to attempt 24 hour operation.

Nothing stands out on either. A friend has the HP unit and there is nothing to report except they feel like it's slow. But that's Vista for you and it would do same on almost any machine.

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Ok..well could you

kinda give me some similar or more recommended product that would be around a $850 budget...and im not an extreme gamer but would hate to have a laptop that was terrible for it and would constanly over heat because chances are ill be on it alot since i start school in the fall. And would you recommend AMD or Intel for a processor? I have had intel in all my computers and really am unimpressed but have heard good things about their Dual core technology. THANKS!

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What games?

Remember that no under 1K laptop currently runs games like Crysis today well. Also there is a lot to be said about trying to take your family VAN out on the weekend stockcar races. You won't finish or perform well.

Here's the hit list for a gamer laptop.

1. Nvidia 8800 class or better video solution.
2. 2GB RAM (more is mostly marketing.)
3. Dual Core CPUs. Core 2 preferred.

If you find a "name" with that you may have a winner. However the issues you do get with gaming laptops is short battery times and hot operation. Think about that laptop cooling pad. Wait, just get one.

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I would really just use the graphics card for mostly watching movies and online video streaming and the only game i could see myself buying is Starcraft 2 if it ever comes out..Both of those computers have AMD x2 2ghz processors is that bad? I cant see myself affording an 8800 series graphics card or 2.4ghz processor so i guess the nvidia 7150 would be a better choice over that ATI X1270? And just by overall brand name and quality would you go with HP, gateway or dell??

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That the ford, chevy, chrysler question.

All are about the same quality. As to which video is better both are non-gamer solutions so a coin flip or a benchmark is needed. As to the CPU this is the value unit so it's a good value.

You'll find naysayers on all those brands so I can't agree one is worse than the other.

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