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Need help on deciding on laptop (gaming)

Mar 24, 2016 8:06AM PDT

a little brief: I'm a going to be student in a University and I'm going to go home every weekend, so I'm looking for a laptop which i could use for heavy gaming as well as school work, maybe some editing as well. As of now, I'm only going to really need the laptop in the mid-end summer, but wanted to ask for advice anyway. Also I'm looking for a 15 inch. FHD screen. Budget: 1000 euro, but I want to spend as least as possible. 

Both computers are Lenovo IdeaPad Y700 (I really like the design)

1st Specs: 
Processor: Intel Core i7-6700HQ,2.6GHz
RAM: 8GB DDR4, 2133MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M (4GB GDDR5 VRAM)
HDD: 1.0TB HDD 5400 rpm + 128G NGFF SSD, via M.2 card slot
Price: 1030€

2nd specs:
Processor: Intel Core i5-6300HQ (Quad Core, 2.3 GHz, Turbo 3.2 GHz, 6MB)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 2GB GDDR5, (Hybrid) VGA
HDD: 1TB, 5400rpm HDD, 2.5" wide, 7mm high
Price: 880 euro
This one also has M.2 card slot but it's occupied with Bluetooth adapter. (Bonus question: Is it possible to change it out for an NGFF SSD?)

From what I read, the difference between the processors are minimalistic and same goes for GPU, is it true?
And I'm looking for a laptop that could run the newer games for 3-4 years (until I finish university) at mid-high settings 40fps+ (won't really mind if it's on low settings), can any of these 2 pull it off? or maybe they both could?

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Read this prior.
Mar 24, 2016 8:36AM PDT
http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/questions-about-upgrading-computer/ has me sharing what my son recently bought and more about more ram, etc.

I'd ditch the hybrid drive and get a model with a plain HDD and upgrade it to SSD (we did that!) 128GB is just too small for gamers. We pulled the 1TB HDD and used the Apricom disk clone kit to move to a 512GB SSD for 150USD for drive and Apricom kit. This thing flies.
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Already did
Mar 24, 2016 8:46AM PDT

I have read quite a few posts about laptops already and if it were clear to me which one is best, I wouldn't have made this post Happy As I said already, I am on a budget and I want to spend as least money as possible on a longer term computer so I'm looking to spend <900€, so a 1000€ laptop is out of the question (it seems that what costs 1000 USD costs 1000€ here. I also don't really want to buy a laptop from abroad, so I can't get it cheaper. I don't mind keeping my games on the HDD for the time being, I would change out the HDD into SSD sooner or later anyways. So mainly this post was meant to compare the two specs in terms of how long and how well they will last me IF I end up buying one of these (which I would like to, because as I mentioned in the post, I really like the design of the Lenovo IdeaPad Y700). Thanks for your answer anyways!

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Search Results 1 Euro equals 1.12 US Dollar
Mar 24, 2016 8:57AM PDT

So my son's really high end laptop with all SSD was 1150USD It was worth doing as his prior Asus ROG ran for 5 years until games starting using DX12. That was never going to show up so he began shopping.

I linked before to the 960m test results so your call on the i7 or i5. For gaming both will do. What really makes his new laptop fly is the all SSD move.

There are folks that slam the y700 display but I didn't see the issue. And on my y510 I did see it but it was fleeting. I see it less than once a month so I can live with it.

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Fair enough
Mar 24, 2016 9:02AM PDT

So if I really want to stick to the y700 either one will do for 3-4 years? But i should try to upgrade to an ssd as soon as possible? Yeah, i also feel like the 960m will be sufficent for the time being.
I personaly don't get the hate about the y700 display, if you hate it so much, just remove the anti-glare (or at least that's what people say they do). Not going to that anyways and probably going to use my old (but still new) monitor when I feel like tryharding. And good to know the issue isn't that noticable on y700

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You can postpone the SSD move for years.
Mar 24, 2016 9:14AM PDT

But here, time to boot and load a game makes this a smart move. It makes the machine feel like it's in the hypersonic jet age.

If you want 3 to 4 years, it might do. I used my son's story as an example. But if game makers start using DX21 and there's no driver well the old games still work!

-> In parting, my son's old 5 year old laptop got the air cleaning about every 2 months. I write to do that monthly so if folk miss a month it's not a big deal as we can count on it getting a bi monthly at least. This can really help extend the life.

You did pick the right size laptop. I see college bound folk pick a 17 inch and then learn first hand why the 15 or 14 inch models are recommended.

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Thanks a lot!
Mar 24, 2016 9:20AM PDT

You really helped me make the final choice Grin Gonna go with the cheaper one and try to get an SSD soonish Grin

Well, GTX 960M supports DX12 from what I understand, maybe I won't be able to max out on graphics, but if the games will be playable, I'll be happy Grin

That's actually good advice, will remember to clean my pc ^^

Yeah, was thinking about 17 inch at first but my brother has a 15 inch and it seems pretty good and a 17 inch just felt a bit too big for me once I had my friends laptop in my hands. + 15 inch will be much easier to carry around if needed Happy

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Confirmed DX12 here.
Mar 24, 2016 9:31AM PDT

My son plays Metal Gear Solid 5 and it's all DX12. There are known hacks and settings but none worked for MGS5. While my choice is to skip a game for a reason like that, he was at 5 years and the move had more reasons than this one lone game.

So I can confirm DX12 games run on the Asus ROG with the 960m.

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Awesome
Mar 24, 2016 9:39AM PDT

That's great news! So newest games with DX12 will run as well Grin

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Already did 2
Mar 24, 2016 8:47AM PDT

Forgot to mention, that in the posts i read and examined, yours was there too! Grin

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Personal Suggestion
Apr 18, 2016 4:53PM PDT

Have you think about MSI GE62?
It is easy for you to bring -- due to it is thin and not heavy.
Besides, it is a 15.6" panel with Core i7/i5 and 960M graphic card.
It is really enough for you to play the game and school works.

For me, except what I said previously, I like the keyboard it has -- steelseries, which I can DIY my keyboard in the color I like!! lol~~~

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Take both strengths then
Apr 20, 2016 6:12PM PDT

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