The Toshiba Gigabeat isn't a bad deal but the cons are surprisingly NO line-in encoding or FM recording, or even voice recording. I'm actually very surprised. But it has a plus touch sensitive interface (very nice by the way) w/digital coloured screen. -> (It's a digital photo viewer as well.) but if your bent mostly on music feats. u might want to check out the iRiver H10 -> all these feats. and more, please check it out. oh, and by the way, i THINK the H10 DOES come in a 20GB form too, but not quite sure...