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Need Help Finding Feature Phone w/ NO WiFi

Aug 19, 2018 11:00AM PDT

As you may know, even Apple has admitted they need to take steps to make iPhones less addictive. Children and Teens are sitting ducks for an internet addict maker formula smart phone + (Games, Apps, Social Media). Sadly, our family therapist told me that my Teen daughter is exhibiting all the symptoms of an internet addiction. I now believe my wife and I made a mistake giving her an iPhone at 14. She’s now 16 ½. While we did lay down ground rules at the very beginning and implemented what parental controls were available, she thought we were lame – “other kids parents don’t have these awful rules like you can’t keep you phone in your bedroom at night!” Anyway, her iPhone is her primary device of choice. So… Ideally I’d like to replace it with a basic feature phone that only has voice and sms texting. Alas! I’ve found that’s just about impossible to find. So now I’m settling for a basic feature phone that is LTE/Data capable but has NOT WiFi and will work on the Verizon carrier network. I plan to use Verizon Family Base ($5/Month) to block data plan, but I need to insure she can’t connect the phone to WiFi at starbucks or wherever because even on those tiny screen basic phones with subpar web browsers, she’ll try to feed her addiction. Unfortunately Verizon doesn’t sell such a phone. All their basic phones have LTE/Data + WiFi!
Does anyone reading this know of a 4G LTE (can’t be 2G or 3G) basic feature phone that does NOT have WiFi and will work on Verizon’s CMDA network protocol? Thanks!

P.S. - Last night I reviewed all the Verizon basic phones with one of the support techs. He confirmed that all their models indeed do have WiFi even though their website specs make no mention of it. I triple confirmed this using this site: https://www.phonearena.com
So really, Verizon doesn't have any answers, they were very apologetic and understanding, but they couldn't help me.

P.S.S. - Have been using restrictions from the very beginning. I turned off the Safari app launcher icon. But she figured out how to use other apps like Apple Maps to launch Safari so she can surf to twitter. I've been playing "whack a mole" deleting apps like this when I figure out which ones use Safari under the covers. But that's been difficult to lock down. It's just time to go for simple, basic feature phone.

Post was last edited on August 19, 2018 11:27 AM PDT

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Looks to be a thing only for "Basic" phones.
Aug 19, 2018 11:09AM PDT
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Confirmed Verizon does not have basic phones with NO WiFi
Aug 19, 2018 11:33AM PDT

Last night I reviewed the entire line-up of basic feature phones that Verizon has on their website. A few of the spec sheets did not address whether they have WiFi capability or not. So I called Verizon tech support. They were able to confirm that indeed, all their basic feature phones have WiFi as well as LTE/Data capabilities. I also checked another helpful resource which backed up what the Verizon tech was telling me. Unfortunately Verizon does not have an answer for a basic phone with no WiFi. The resource site I used was https://www.phonearena.com
Thanks.

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This is why I went to their "Basic" phones.
Aug 19, 2018 12:36PM PDT

Any feature phone would, from what I know have WiFi. What more do they need other than voice and SMS?

I won't bother you about parental discussions here.

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Truly Only Want Voice and SMS...
Aug 19, 2018 1:04PM PDT

R. Proffitt, thanks for trying to help. Definitely appreciate it. If I recall accurately, I've reviewed 12 basic feature phones that appeared they might not have WiFi and would still work on 4G LTE Verizon. So far, no dice on any of them. As you say, they all do have WiFi.

My daughter does not need anything more than voice and sms. Alas, I have found only 1 phone, (LG 470 Flip Phone) that supports 4G and DOES NOT HAVE WIFI! Problem is that it won't work on Verizon's CMDA. So I might have to get an ATT Plan. The phone still does support 4G data, but I could buy a prepaid plan that does not include data.

My other option would be to continue on Verizon with her iPhone 6 (iOS 11) and delete every app that can be deleted. That'll still leave Safari, but via restrictions I remove the Safari app launcher and AppStore icon app launcher. Then with Verizon Family base I can block data. She'd still have WiFi, but just about nothing she could do on the phone. She'd have:

Voice, SMS text, Wallet, Find my Phone, Camera, Photos, and Contacts. What I don't know (and now one can tell me) is whether or not she can launch safari from an option/feature of Wallet APP, Find My Phone App, etc.

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I checked the link above and noted the first had WiFi.
Aug 19, 2018 2:02PM PDT
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Confirmed Kyocera Candence DOES have WiFi...
Aug 19, 2018 8:09PM PDT

Saw your post and followed link. It did not mention WiFi at all in the specs. So I went here to check: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Kyocera-Cadence-LTE_id10675
Indeed, the Cadence does have WiFi after all. I called Verizon tech support just to be sure and they confirmed the Cadence really does have WiFi.

So I've landed on buying an LG B470 Flip phone which has no WiFi. Yes it's an older flip phone but thankfully it will work with 4G LTE. Many other old phones don't. I'll get it on Tuesday and then will get an ATT prepaid plan that does not include Data. Mission accomplished - voice and SMS texting only. The only concession was having to get a phone for ATT instead of desired Verizon.

I'll post back here later to report on how well this all worked. Thanks again for your help.

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Good digging there.
Aug 20, 2018 9:25AM PDT

The Cadence has so little RAM and no browser so even if it had WiFi what could you do with it? Anyhow, you found a true no WiFi voice and SMS phone so good digging.

Post was last edited on July 10, 2019 9:47 AM PDT

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Late to the game but here I am
Aug 27, 2019 8:59AM PDT

The cadence does have a browser now... My husband is struggling with porn addiction and has been using his phone inappropriately at work. Like the original post, I can turn off data capabilities but there's an open WiFi network at his work.... I was sold the Kyocera cadence as a solution to this, as it is marketed as a basic phone, but lo and behold... Not five minutes after I hand him his new phone, he's setting up his email. This prompts me to go into the menu and see that there IS in fact a web browser, and immediately upon opening it it prompts you to connect to Wi-Fi... This simply will not do.

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Big Proponent of this Parental guidance
Jul 9, 2019 12:01AM PDT
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That model
Jul 9, 2019 1:11AM PDT

Is just 3G. 3G isn't dead yet so why not do this as it will be a few more years until 3G is dead (at least here in the USA.)

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So...
Jul 9, 2019 9:40PM PDT

So was KayakCrazy1's solution void then? That's really too bad.

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I'm not dead yet.
Jul 10, 2019 9:48AM PDT

3G has years to go here. Why is that a problem?

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Because. . .because
Jul 10, 2019 10:05PM PDT

3G devices can't receive SMS Multimedia messages from 4G LTE devices for one thing.

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I receive SMS and MMS from 4G LTE devices.
Jul 10, 2019 10:20PM PDT

Something's off about that. The SMS goes to a computer at the carrier and at that point it's agnostic if the cellular destination is 2 to 4G. Me? Just someone that worked on cellular base station hardware design.

Post was last edited on July 10, 2019 10:27 PM PDT

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Not sure about that.....
Jul 11, 2019 6:25AM PDT

Unlike voice, text messaging likely will work just fine as it would be backward compatible with the faster network. And if it is an iPhone, it could send and receive SMS/MMS via WiFi despite of the available cellular technology.

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MMS to a flip phone could fail.
Jul 11, 2019 9:02AM PDT

SMS has been fine. However there are many that don't know or want to know how these differ.

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Modern feature phones....
Jul 11, 2019 12:09PM PDT

....can send/rcv MMS. Even the most basic phone can receive MMS even if it doesn't have a built in browser (been that way since MMS was first available in the early 2000's. It only requires a visible display (unlike the older Jitterbug phones) and a camera to capture images for sending.

Post was last edited on July 11, 2019 12:13 PM PDT

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Browser Free Phone
Feb 13, 2019 9:07AM PST

Kyocera just released a phone which does not have a browser and does not have email. It is available in 3 options 1.(Libert+) talk & text with music and camera no email and no internet. 2.(Liberty) talk & text and no email and no internet and no music and no camera and no photo viewer. 3.(Nesher) talk only no text messaging/email/internet/music/camera.

Link to shop removed by moderator.

Post was last edited on February 13, 2019 9:36 AM PST

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Answer to your problem
May 6, 2019 5:30PM PDT
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That's vaporware.
May 6, 2019 5:36PM PDT

You claim it's the answer but even they write "The project team has a working demo, not the final product. Their ability to begin production may be affected by product development or financial challenges."

This product does not exist today.

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