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NBC: FBI dismissed Al Qaeda hijack report in 4/00

by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / June 3, 2004 9:24 AM PDT
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You do realize this was Clinton's FBI?
by Kiddpeat / June 3, 2004 1:23 PM PDT

He had eight years to shape them up. Why blame George?

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The FBI is bipartisan
by Dan McC / June 3, 2004 9:27 PM PDT

in it's resistance to reform.

Dan

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Re: This was Clinton's FBI? -- Did I blame George?
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / June 3, 2004 10:54 PM PDT

Hi, KP.

I do think it curious, though, that the two agencies that appear to have screwed up the worst, and that are most notorious for lack of cooperation due to turf wars (the FBI and CIA) are the two that were not significantly reorganized after 9/11. Also, while an FOB may have been in charge, folks who join the FBI or CIA tend not to be liberals...

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Re: This was Clinton's FBI? -- Did I blame George?
by Diana Forum moderator / June 3, 2004 11:27 PM PDT

I was listening to the radio yesterday (don't ask what station or who it was - just browsing) that the FBI and CIA are now cooperating very well but they are still not passing on the information to the local authorities. Still an us vs them mentality - just us has increased to two.

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Re: This was Clinton's FBI? -- Did I blame George?

Hi, Diana.

Unfortunately, the "us vs. them" between "The Feds" and "the locals" in law enforcement is a two-way stree. Many local law eneforecement folks are leery because the Feds have the reuptation for superceding local jurisdiction (even when the local crime may be more severe, e.g. murder vs. counterfeiting) and hogging all the publicity.

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Not always, Dave....
by J. Vega / June 4, 2004 4:35 AM PDT

Not always, Dave. For example, kidnapping is a Federal offense. However, if the victim is murdered, the Feds almost always let the locals prosecute. Such happened in the little town near me about a year or so ago in the case of a little girl that hit the national media. As it was an hour away from Washington D.C. the town and the immediate were inundated with FBI agents. When the body was found and the perp identified, the Feds turned the case oner to the locals for prosecution (the perp got life).
I'm surprised that you used counterfeiting as an example, the Secret Service is the agency that deals with that specifically, for the obvious reasons.
Sometimes it's a "flip flop" in the case of "hogging all the publicity" or taking the credit for solving the case. Sometimes the "locals" jump the gun trying to get the credit. This was a source of some argument in the "Atlanta Child Murders" case with the arrest of Wayne Williams. A lot of people, both local and Fed got "steamed" and accused the Atlanta PD of jumping the gun with the arrest before the Feds acted.

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There's the dig that you just can't resist. It was the CONSERVATIVEs who
by Kiddpeat / June 4, 2004 6:45 AM PDT

were at fault. Clinton had no ability to control those bully boys. Right? Why didn't Bill put some liberals into the FBI and CIA? On second thought, as I recall even his White House staff was having trouble passing security checks. So why don't the liberals join these organizations? They could straighten them out.

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Because
by Cindi Haynes / June 4, 2004 12:50 AM PDT

Every thing that happens in every group, agency, or bureau under Bush is his fault. When something happened under Clinton, then suddenly the group itself takes the hit, and that administration has no responsibility.

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Re:Because
by Josh K / June 4, 2004 12:55 AM PDT
In reply to: Because

Well, according to the Bushies, everything that's gone wrong in his Administration or with the economy or war on terror is Bill Clinton's fault, so there you go.

I was really upset when Clinton made Bush fall off his bike though. That was hitting below the belt.

Wink

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NT Yeah, what a bully, huh? ;-)
by Cindi Haynes / June 4, 2004 1:42 AM PDT
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