Naval hospital ship "Comfort"

NO COVID patient is allowed on the ship because of contamination to not only personnel but the equipment and ship itself. How much money and effort do you think would have to go into sanitizing a revamped tanker so it could go on to other countries later on when needed when it was PREVENTABLE in the first place, JP?

What the hell is wrong with you? Why don't you come stand in front of the mortar and bricks hospital ER entrance and triage for them and YOU decide who gets sent to the ship in order to satisfy YOUR demands/desires? Oh, wait.....Canada and the USA won't let you in here because you are NON-ESSENTIAL, thank God.

You seem to forget that many non-COVID patients can go to local clinics to be treated for a burn, a cut, a stabbing/gun shot wound that doesn't need major surgery, a broken bone, etc. They don't require a major hospital ship setting to do that. The most serious cases are being transported to Comfort and Mercy.....are you angry that there aren't MORE of them? That seems to be the case.....or did you forget that even CRIMINALS are staying home for the most part (they would rather risk a shootout than catch the virus, I guess) and car accidents just aren't happening so much because the city is locked down. When you don't have anybody on the streets or getting hurt on a job that doesn't exist right now, you don't have many 'normal' hospital patients, JP.

"Are you stupid or what?" To quote Judge Janine...…….

Or are you just antagonistic and argumentative by nature?

I could make some posts of HER statements that were proven wrong....so be careful.

RE: Pre-screen WHAT people?

these people.....The ship was brought there for a reason. (to remove people from existing hospitals that were overcrowded).

they knew weeks ago the ship was coming.

RE:The most serious cases are being transported to Comfort and Mercy.....

AND there were ONLY 20 in 5 days in NEW YORK City. 20 million people in that population.

Even LESS serious cases in the existing hospitals take up staff AND resources.

980 beds sitting empty....trained medical personnel WAITING for work....hospitals overcrowded = waste of resources

RE:Or are you just antagonistic and argumentative by nature?

No...I'm being logical by nature.

Are you being a Trumpette by nature?

NEW cases are being "discovered" at a rate way higher than 20 people per day in NYC.....WHERE are THEY going?...To the already overcrowded hospitals. Yet the ship only has 20 patients?

are you talking about 'normal COVID-free' patients? Can you imagine that MANY, if not MOST have already been released to go HOME and didn't NEED more hospitalization? The ships are there for serious NON-COVID patients and have already been screened to be transferred, JP......cardiac, surgical, dialysis, etc type patients. The ships were NEVER intended for COVID patients. That's what the mobile/MASH type hospitals are for....to take some of the LESS severe COVID patients out of an overwhelmed hospital that doesn't have enough beds or personnel for their care IN hospital so the MORE severe cases can be concentrated and focused on.

Your last paragraph proves my point regarding your idiotic babble since I've now had to say it TWICE to you. Your comprehension level has dropped dramatically over the last couple of years...too bad YOU can't see that but others here have.

have 1000 infected virus patients on that ship? That's what it sounds like. The Gov of NY was 'begging' for help because the regular hospitals were overwhelmed with virus patients and couldn't handle the 'regular' patients well. Trump responded by having the Army Corps of Engineers build MASH type hospitals for the less serious virus patients and sent the ship....was it Trump's fault that many 'regular' hospital patients had already been discharged and sent home or that many local clinics were able to take over some of that 'regular' overflow, such as dialysis? Or do you think that there are fewer 'regular' patients because there are fewer car crashes and knife/gun fights needing surgeries because of the lockdown? It's also possible that many who would usually use the ER for a common cold or a muscle spasm or a freaking stubbed toe know not to mess with wasting a military ship's time on stupid crap when they wouldn't give a crap about wasting the time and effort of a regular hospital's ER personnel?

I don't know what you are actually complaining about....it's not YOUR tax dollars spent on that ship....but it's SOMEBODY'S mother/father needing major surgery and getting it on that ship without having to worry about getting the virus at the same time. Don't ALL LIVES MATTER to you, even if it IS ONLY 20 right now so that more in the actual hospital can also get focused on to survive as well?

Can you find something really important to ****** about?

But you're both still in isolation from the Bible.

with being in isolation from your version of the Bible....because I know for sure I'm not in isolation from God and that's what matters.

It was to dismiss your constant 'scolding' regarding my rejection of your particular faith since you can't seem to accept that mine is just as relevant as you believe yours is. For someone who is supposed to believe in 'acceptance' and 'tolerance', you personally have neither for anyone who doesn't believe as you do....but that's pretty much the norm for 'liberals' and the far left. It's tiresome though...…..

more than Trump who was already closing travel from China....then he got together with Mexico and Canada and all three agreed to close both borders to non-essential travel....which would have included you anyhow. That was formally announced on March 18. Maybe you actually cancelled the flight because you went broke and needed the refund and used the virus as an excuse? "early March'....pretty coincidental I'd say....did Canada announce ahead of time before the formal announcement much like many of our Governors were 'hinting' at before officially closing down border state travel? Keep spinning away...…….

In MY world it doesn't work THAT way...non-refundable they do give a credit voucher

RE:That was formally announced on March 18.
I cancelled WAY before that date....I cancelled The first week in March

March 18?....I think it was last week that YOU were suggesting people should be able to travel 150 miles from home

And this post by you from Mar 25, 2020 3:56AM PDT...no travel ban then...Ask yourself why those STUDENTS weren't tested BEFORE they left their colleges and allowed to travel helter skelter all across the country when schools were telling them to pack up and leave?

Even YOU were complaining....complaining about students running helter skelter AND you thinking that people should be able to travel 150 miles from home.

YOU can have it "both ways"?

Correction...here is the part of YOUR postYes...restrict travel, including here in the States to within a 50 mile radius of your home;

150 miles should have been 50 miles.

put that restriction on their sailors and Marines in Norfolk....not the Gov of Va. Originally the restriction was 275 miles when Derek requested his leave for Easter week and it was changed by the Navy two weeks later. The Gov is still allowing people to cross the state line if they have paperwork showing they work here but live in another state or that they live here and work in another state....everyone else is turned back.

I had family members from Cleveland, 400 miles away, who had made plans to come here this month and would be traveling via interstate highways the whole way but had to tell them to cancel because of our Gov's restriction. Derek had two of his sailors stopped by the Highway Patrol on the interstate coming to work who live in Norfolk but had out of state tags on their vehicles, which military are allowed to have since they get moved around a lot and have their cars registered in their home state.

I still think it's insane to shut down an entire country over a few thousand probable deaths, while watching a robust economy destroy millions of lives financially. It's equally insane to have some stupid law enforcement person on tv telling the criminals to stay home and not cause problems right now....basically giving them permission to carry on once the virus is under control.

by the latest count 63K+ deaths and entire countries are on lockdown.....whereas there are 142K+ deaths from MEASLES and NO reaction like this.
Polio in the USA killed 6000+ and nothing like this.

H1N1 = HealthDay ReporterFRIDAY, Feb. 7, 2020 (HealthDay News) -- "Folks fretting about the coronavirus are forgetting there's another virus already running rampant in the United States, one that's killed nearly 20 times as many people in this country alone. " https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-07/theres-a-virus-spreading-in-us-thats-killed-10-000-the-flu

Did BO shut down the country in 2009-2010?

There have been many other contagious outbreaks without this kind of reaction and it's downright disgusting that mainly the left have deliberately pushed the panic button and that the common sense right have bought into this crap....all for political reasons rather than for actual health concerns of the population. If the left really was concerned, they wouldn't have kept the bill from passing for over a week so they could get illegals in on the act and attempted to push more abortion and voting garbage into it. If they care about the population, they would stop killing 60M babies so willy-nilly so that our country could repopulate itself without depending on illegals coming here to do it.

People DIE....it's God's will as to when and how....the world doesn't have to and shouldn't have to stop because a small number compared to the world population number actually DO.

That;s right....People DIE.

YOU smoke and YOU get lung cancer, and YOU die....

I don't DIE because YOU got lung cancer and DIED.

THAT's the rub.

RE:Polio?

How long is a person with polio contagious? Patients infected with the polio virus can pass the virus on for 7–10 days before the onset of disease. In addition, they can continue to shed the virus in their stool for 3–6 weeks....not MY playground....

and measles have long contagious periods.....did we shut down the country over it? Have other countries shut down the country over it? THAT's the rub, JP......

Yes, parts of the country every year during "polio season".

It;s NOW Covid 19 "Season" for ALL the WORLD

throughout the first half of the 20th century, the polio virus arrived each summer, striking without warning. No one knew how polio was transmitted or what caused it. There were wild theories that the virus spread from imported bananas or stray cats. There was no known cure or vaccine.

For the next four decades, swimming pools and movie theaters closed during polio season for fear of this invisible enemy. Parents stopped sending their children to playgrounds or birthday parties for fear they would “catch polio.”

where children would congregate and many parents didn't send their kids to playgrounds......and it was SEASONAL, NOT all year and NOT the whole freaking country, JP....and NOT the schools.

I lived through the polio years and I remember not only getting the shots AT school, but also the 'drinkable' type also AT school.

Make a REAL, and HONEST, point or shut your pie hole as you are so fond of saying.

REMEMBERING the past is more like it....and how it was handled then (and we survived and recovered quite quickly) compared to how it is being dealt with NOW is massive and not easily recoverable from.

How exactly do you think your link destroyed mine? I don't see it.

How exactly do you think Trump has had 'inactions'? From what I can see he has not only acted immediately DURING an INACTIVE Congress because they were obsessed with an impeachment/removal they knew would never happen and ignored the rest the world issues. AND he's been PRO-active every single day on this virus issue....yes, he 'downplayed' it as optimistic not because of not being well informed about it.....that hardly constitutes 'inaction' on his part, JP. How much info was YOUR leader giving out about this since December/January and what were HIS actions/inactions? I recall Trump being criticized quite vocally about his stopping travelers from China on Jan 28 and for a number of weeks after that....and is still being criticized even while Congress/Pelosi deliberately held off holding a vote on the relief bill at the last minute so the Dems could push more garbage into it for their own personal agendas instead of the American people who were hurting. WHO exactly were exercising INACTION? It wasn't Trump.....

This is what I read in https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/08/trump-stokes-fresh-coronavirus-row-as-wuhan-reopens:

New memos revealing Trump was warned at the end of January that tough action was needed to avert hundreds of thousands of American deaths have fuelled suggestions the president is seeking a scapegoat.

The WHO declared Covid-19 a public health emergency on 30 January. Almost a month later Trump, who had compared the virus to influenza, said it was under control in the US, before declaring a national emergency on 13 March.

Do you call that "acted immediately"?

question regarding 'acting immediately'....

"Trump was warned in LATE January"...WHO declared the emergency Jan 30....Pompeo INCREASED the travel advisory re: China Jan 30 (same date)….Trump announced non-citizens coming from China could NOT enter the USA Jan 31 (the next day).

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-coronavirus-outbreak-declared-global-public-health-emergency-who-says-n1126836

Does the word "INCREASED" suggest that travel restrictions were ALREADY in place? If not, why not?

Wasn't the same date travel advisory by Pompeo suggestive of 'immediately'?

Contrary to popular belief, Trump was not warned in December.....Taiwan warned the WHO and that agency ignored it since Taiwan isn't recognized by China as legitimate and DIDN'T warn other countries until Jan...and even then the warning was saying that it couldn't be transmitted person to person to cover for China. https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/20/who-taiwan-coronavirus-warning/

Trump gave HIS warning during his State of the Union address on Feb 4 (six days after WHO lied)....that Pelosi ignored and ripped to pieces.... https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-spoke-of-coronavirus-in-sotu-pelosi-tore-it-up-called-it-manifesto-of-mistruths?%3Futm_source=twitter

How much faster do you think he should have reacted? Should he have waited for the duration like BO did with H1N1?

Does the word "INCREASED" suggest that travel restrictions were ALREADY in place?

AND

The WHO declared Covid-19 a public health emergency on 30 January. Almost a month later Trump, who had compared the virus to influenza, said it was under control in the US,

a month later from Jan 30 is Mar 2...and here we are Apr 8....

So what does "under control" mean to YOU?

It means nothing when those words come from DJT.

one statement that you focus on, which wasn't in my post btw, and ignore the rest that proves ACTION on his part when he's accused on NO action or SLOW action.

Just can't bring yourself to admit that he actually DID react and quickly, while BO played Nero and fiddled (golfed) while H1N1 was in full swing and actually DID do nothing.....without a word from you.

Keep playing your games, JP....the only complaint I personally have about how this has been handled has been the Governors NOT Trump making the decision to shut down the whole country when it wasn't necessary, except as a political tool to break the economy since they had nothing else to use to beat Trump in November and they still don't....never let a good crisis go to waste.

Took a while to find you.
The ABC News report, linked elsewhere, says it was in December "when the White House was first warned of coronavirus. According to an exclusive ABC News investigation the National Center for Medical Intelligence warned the military and White House about the spread of the virus in China as far back as late November."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273
It doesn't say that a paper with those words was handed to the President; the White House is a large building, or perhaps he was on the links. Let's not jump to condemn. Anyway, he has often expressed distrust of his own intelligence agencies. Perhaps he was protecting us from fake news.
Besides, we both know the Guardian is a mouthpiece for the radical left. Fake. Despicable. Pinko. (Remember pinko?)

How you guys doing in Dutchland? At least Mods get to work from home.

"I don't DIE because YOU got lung cancer and DIED."
Tell that to all the rest of the world who insist that 'second hand' smoke kills so force people to stop smoking because we ARE killing you...…..but keep the tobacco companies in business so taxes can be raised every year on them and the consumers so new stadiums etc can be built that we can't smoke in.

You guys are a joke....make up your minds at least. You want to save a few thousand lives by quarantining us in our houses, but have no problem killing of 60 MILLION babies already and fight to kill even more of them.