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My SO talked to a Tijuana resident about the migrants.

Nov 28, 2018 8:53AM PST

At work there is an US Citizen living in Tijuana since it's cheap to live there. They cross the border for work when needed.

Something very interesting was told by this person so I wonder if anyone has read about the following.

Some migrants were told that "America wants you" and received some money to make the trip.

In our days of manufactured crisis, I'm inclined to believe.

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Something I keep seeing
Nov 28, 2018 12:24PM PST

in pics and videos that bothers me......I hear from liberal media (Fox hasn't mentioned it) that these a poor people looking for work, have no money for food, etc on this trek, etc., but most are seen using cell phones (I've even seen them being recharged at some stops along the way). How can they pay that bill if they're so broke? Cell phone coverage doesn't come cheap and I'm sure they aren't all CVS Track phones with 'paid minutes' that have to be repurchased vey easily. Even using internet banking to purchase minutes means they have money in an account somewhere and could have the resources to purchase food, too.

There was a video a few minutes ago on Fox that showed at least three women in a pretty brand new and shiny Dodge Ram pickup with kids (one was an infant) and a male driver piling in and driving away from TJ...the reporter said they were tired of waiting and going back home. Where did the money come from to leave? Was the driver a volunteer, a family member who came to get them? I'm more than curious because of the newness of the vehicle...if it's a family member, they appear to be more well off than we are led to believe.

Yep....I'm a skeptic......

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RE:.I hear from liberal media (Fox hasn't mentioned it)
Nov 28, 2018 6:37PM PST
.I hear from liberal media (Fox hasn't mentioned it) that these a poor people looking for work,

Here ya' go....a FOX NEWS story.

'They're Playing the Game': Homan Says Migrant Caravan Mostly Men Seeking Jobs, Not Women and Children

Former Acting ICE Director Thomas Homan warned that the migrant caravan at the U.S.-Mexico border consists mostly of men seeking work, not women and children fleeing persecution.

RE: How can they pay that bill if they're so broke?

Who said they are "paying"...did you ever hear of being in debt...owing money?
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They owe money?
Nov 29, 2018 6:41AM PST

How? Do they have credit cards that they owe on and use that to pay for cell phones? If they are so poor how do they get credit cards in the first place? Come on, JP......you're grasping and spinning bs.

I said the liberal media keep talking about how poor these people are that they are only at the border seeking jobs....but none are saying anything about how they managed to pay their way across three countries, get cell phones, pay for minutes if using those kinds of cell phones, etc. WHERE is their money to do this coming from? Does nobody question it? Some are even heading back home in style....who's paying for THAT trip now? To claim these people are all poor is ridiculous....

Fox has a few liberals as anchors and commentators that also comment about how poor they are, but most actually talk about how it's literally a scam on this country because they were already offered asylum by Mexico, as well as benefits and jobs....and they've turned it down because they want to pick and choose WHERE they get to land their feet. That's not how asylum works.

Now it turns out many are sick with TB, bronchial infections, chicken pox, etc......Has the UN showed up yet to take care of this 'humanitarian' crisis? I haven't seen them yet and now a few thousand has turned into seven thousand with more coming.

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RE:I said the liberal media keep talking about how poor
Nov 29, 2018 6:59AM PST
I said the liberal media keep talking about how poor these people are that they are only at the border seeking jobs


And I provided a link to a FOX NEWS site making the same claim as the liberal media.

So now conservative media and the liberal media are in agreement...Is your world going to implode?

I didn't bother responding to the rest of your post...in fact I was only interested in your response to MY shooting down your disconnect of FOX NEWS and the liberal media....

And you had NO response.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!
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My response is the same
Nov 30, 2018 6:28AM PST

Fox News is the only media reporting that although main street liberal media concentrates on the 'poor' description of these migrants, they are ignoring the fact that not all are poor seeking jobs, proven by their ability to have cell phones and are able to continue making those monthly payments or buy minutes for them, travel quite easily including paying others for rides or coyotes, are gang members, are traffickers, etc. Even the mayor of TJ has determined that this caravan has more dangerous members than people are being led to believe, they are unhealthy, believe they are 'entitled' to everything Mexico and the USA gives them but trashes the cities they pass through and don't bother to clean up after themselves, have stated over and over again that they want nothing to do with Mexico's offers of jobs, housing, and asylum even though International Law demands that they accept it, and are not fleeing their countries out of fear. They are organized, destructive, and encouraged by liberal groups who believe in open borders and are using these people as tools to further their own agendas.

There is NO agreement between Fox and the liberal media with WHAT is actually being reported....which is MY point. Your mission has not been accomplished.....You have chosen to spin what I said and what I've pointed out and also chosen to ignore all the reasons this invasion should be stopped.

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So you don't think they are poor people looking for work
Nov 30, 2018 7:03AM PST

FOX NEWS said they are looking for work, YOU think they are "rich".

So, in your mind they are rich people looking for work.

What are they going to do with all their money when they get into America?

Spend it in America? Buy American goods?

And that's a problem?

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It doesn't matter, work or not
Nov 30, 2018 7:48AM PST

They don't belong here. They have a country. They can return.

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I'm saying that they aren't as 'poor' as
Nov 30, 2018 11:14AM PST

the liberal media keeps making them out to be. Who CARES why they are SAYING why they are coming here...none (or very few of them) will tell the truth when they get to the front of the line and try to make their case for asylum. It also appears that as they find out that the wait will be months and their chances of getting asylum are slim to none, they are 'self-deporting' and going back home. Three things come to mind regarding that decision....1) where are they getting the money and means to do that? 2) IF it was so bad for them there in the first place, why did they decide to leave? and 3) Why aren't they taking Mexico up on their offer of asylum, jobs, housing, and assistance?

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RE: I'm saying that they aren't as 'poor' as
Nov 30, 2018 11:51AM PST
I'm saying that they aren't as 'poor' as the liberal media keeps making them out to be

And you determine they aren't "poor' by the fact that they have a cell phone AND they are using it?

Is this discussion a continuation of your disapproval of the 'Obamaphone'?

I recall all the rants you had years ago...about people getting their Obamaphones....

IF they do make it across the border you won't be buying them any Obamaphones...they already have one.
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RE:They are organized, destructive,
Nov 30, 2018 7:18AM PST
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Yeah, I saw that pic....
Nov 30, 2018 11:31AM PST

What decent mother who cares about her babies would charge a border fence with a hundred or so grown men and put them in harm's way? I've seen many more like the ones below though....

Have you seen recent pics of the filth they have created all around their children who are getting sicker by the day? https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=feC%2bt3jR&id=1F14F2CB750377FB279C2AEE769766D61C3E84CB&thid=OIF.%2foPT5IGGKMtQzCEwwlb5Ew&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fkpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2fimg%2fphotos%2f2018%2f11%2f29%2fIMG_0097_1_t600.jpg%3f4326734cdb8e39baa3579048ef63ad7b451e7676&exph=450&expw=600&q=tijuana+migrant+filth&simid=85326040624&selectedIndex=10&ajaxhist=0v

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re: pics of the filth
Nov 30, 2018 12:00PM PST
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ticker tape and...
Dec 1, 2018 2:24AM PST

...they pay enough taxes there to get it cleaned up. Can't compare to what's going on at border in Mexico.

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Here's a pic from TONIs link
Dec 1, 2018 3:54AM PST
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Good for him
Dec 1, 2018 4:23AM PST

Might be worth letting him at least into US.

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Are you assuming it's one of the migrants?
Dec 1, 2018 7:23AM PST

It could actually be a TJ resident......

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RE:It could actually be a TJ resident......
Dec 1, 2018 7:26AM PST

Are you suggesting a Mexican would pick up garbage?

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You mean like the
Dec 1, 2018 10:43AM PST

Caucasian guy who picks up MINE every Thursday?

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RE:You mean like the
Dec 1, 2018 1:02PM PST
You mean like the Caucasian guy who picks up MINE every Thursday?


Did you request a Caucasian guy to pickup your garbage or were you just lucky?

Do you separate garbage, compost, plastics, metal and paper or do you just throw everything in one container?

In my neck of the woods we separate, one week it's recyclables (metal, paper, plastic and compost) and the next week it's garbage.
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The trash company picks who they
Dec 2, 2018 3:58AM PST

hire for trash collection from applicants.....do you think THEY request specific ethnicity applicants? Stop being ridiculous and actually make pertinent statements at least.

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RE:Stop being ridiculous
Dec 2, 2018 4:03AM PST

Said the person that brought up the ethnicity of the person that picks up her trash.

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YOU did....not me....
Dec 2, 2018 4:46AM PST

"Are you suggesting a Mexican would pick up garbage?"

And I didn't even have to 'google' for that...…..

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RE: that picks up her trash.
Dec 2, 2018 5:31AM PST

The key word is her

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She suggested a Canadian, but...
Dec 2, 2018 11:21PM PST

...their H1B hire got it confused with Caucasian.

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RE:confused with Caucasian.
Dec 3, 2018 3:13AM PST

They are easily confused?

English Second Language in United States of America?

I think you got up too early this morning James, OR you stayed up way too late.

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Never mind migrants, I've solved the big mystery.
Nov 29, 2018 7:46PM PST

SO = Significant Other.
Happy

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A general FYI, and an attempt to add some factual
Nov 29, 2018 9:20PM PST

material to the immigrant discussions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-46034400
"Six charts on the immigrants who call the US home
By Kriston McIntosh, Ryan Nunn & Jay Shambaugh The Hamilton Project, Brookings Institution"
Brookings is a US think tank.
No figures on the number who are raping, murdering, radical-Muslim swine.

['Add facts to a discussion? Pruner, you're so naïve!'] Happy

Non-immigrant info:
Daytrippers from Mexico have been adding millions a year to California's economy for a long time.
OTOH they do bring problems. Some years ago it was proposed to bar them from free emergency care at US hospitals. [Not mainly for obstetrics; a separate item.] Then cooler heads pointed out that untreated diseases like malaria and TB infect White folks also.

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Apples vs oranges.....LEGAL vs ILLEGAL
Nov 30, 2018 6:30AM PST

and YOUR info relates to LEGALS...…..do you have documentation regarding the drain ILLEGALS make on our economy? Didn't think so.....

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I've known some.
Dec 1, 2018 4:34PM PST

They work when and where they can.
They often get cheated by their casual work "employers". White people; churchgoers maybe.
Their health isn't the best.
The money they make gets spent mostly in small town stores and such. The rest goes back to their families in Mexico.

None of that was true. I copy/pasted from Commie liberal sites with no origin IDs.

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(NT) Sorry. s/b COMMIE LIBERALS.
Dec 1, 2018 4:37PM PST