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Question

My friend has a problem with his pc.

Dec 20, 2012 5:10AM PST

Well my friend baught a new pc for about a year ago. And he baught it in parts, so he could get the parts he wanted. Well and after he got the parts he assempled the pc and installed windows 7

In the start everything went well with playing games, with no lag at all. (He mostly played Skyrim) But after a while he got tired of Skyrim and wanted to play something else. Here is where the problem come. Almost every game except from a few, makes his pc either crash, freeze or lag. Me that had a worse pc could run the same games with higher setting with no problems, what so ever. And so i started discussing this problem with my dad.( which helped him pick the parts our, and also we build a lot computer and helps when someone got a problem) and so we discussed and found some selutions. But when i tried them, they didn't do any difference.
We tried:
Increasing fan speed.
Reinstalling windows 7
Running the game from another hard drive
Installing Winows 7 on another hard drive
Testing his videocard in my pc. And than i could still run games better than him.
And also restarting the CMOS.

And so i come here and post this for more expreienced people to read and to hopefully help us out. And if anyone could have a selution, we could then finally play together in other games than minecraft. And he also has no problem buying new parts, but he doesn't want to but new parts in vein
His specs:
Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti
AMD FX (tm)/4100 Quad-Core prossesor 3.60 GHz
8 Gb ram
Gigabyte ga-970a-ud3

Sorry for the long post, and also sorry for my bad English. Sad

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Did they do the basics?
Dec 20, 2012 5:25AM PST

Such as wipe off the heat sink compound, apply new and check the fans?

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If i did the basics?
Dec 20, 2012 11:31PM PST

Well all of his fans are working but that heat thingy you have between the prossesor and the fan is not there. So i'm going to try to apply that as soon as i get my hands on some Wink

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Well i did the basics
Jan 2, 2013 8:26PM PST

Yeah i wiped of the old dried out sink compund and applied new. It became more stable, but it's still overheating! He's going to buy a more powerfull CPU fan and hopefully that will work

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What are the system TEMPs ?
Jan 3, 2013 12:28AM PST

If you're not sure, download, install, run and minimize PCWizard2012. While you use your PC..the system temps ....CPU core(s), GPU, etc., will remain visible in the upper right hand corner.of the monitor.

Have you tried running with the side off ?

Exactly what PSU are you running ?

How many case fans are there ?

For good information on aftermarket CPU fans.....check http://www.FROSTYTECH.COM

VAPCMD

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The system temps.
Jan 3, 2013 4:12AM PST

Well i have tried taking the sides of and that helped a little, but not enought for it not to crash. And the regular temps is at 54 idle, and 90 in games. Except on minecraft. There are around 3 case fans in there too. But tomrrow i'm bringing a huge CPU fan and i'm going to check if that helps Wink

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90C is pretty hot.
Jan 3, 2013 4:13AM PST

Is the BIOS current and at its defaults? Once in a while I encounter folk that are overclocking and for those folk, it's OK to crash.
Bob

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If i overcloaked
Jan 3, 2013 4:28AM PST

Well i did change it back to factory settting, and none of us did even attempt to overcloack it. So no i havn't overcloak it

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Not cloaked or even cloak and dagger.
Jan 3, 2013 4:38AM PST

"Over clocked." I'd research if the BIOS is current. I rarely check that but in this case it may matter. If the BIOS is off a little or an old version there may be an issue with the defaults.

I'm sure that you as a PC builder have encountered this one.
Bob

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Ok...agree with Bob 50 at idle and 90 during play
Jan 3, 2013 5:20AM PST

it too high !

Recommend you check the aftermarket CPU HS Fans....there are high-end, high price CPU HS Fan units but there are also a number that do a very respectable job at less than $40....here's the link to rated HS fan units on AMD processors.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2693&page=4

Also ...what PSU are you running ??

VAPCMD

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How about air flow?
Jan 3, 2013 12:28AM PST

That machine is one I run into and frankly will not allow in the repair shop. The owners often demand it get fixes which entails a new motherboard and CPU if the usual doesn't cure it. Here I can share some of the usual to stabilize the ones that are OK.

Try it with the cover off.
Bob