to bad he wasnt there to lead!
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Murtha's at it again :-(
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...based on his physical appearance?
Wow, that's cool.
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and i know how credible you are
to bad i cant say as you would scream insult
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So how are you going to assess my credibility regarding it -- telepathy?
Who else's credibility can you judge based on what they look like?
This is really interesting!
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....that you referring to something relevant to this thread. I suppose I could be wrong about that.
Guilty? About what?
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i dont know as i said josh
you attack and when called on it you scream like a scalded chicken.
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The soldiers (if they're guilty)? And who have I attacked? You're the one who claims to be able to tell Murtha isn't credible by his appearance.
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his prior cooments lend nothing to think of him as an honeralble man in my eyes
and the non legals josh
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So you're in no more position to determine whether the charges are true than he is. Probably less since he's privy to information that you aren't.
This thread isn't about illegals.
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more experiance in a war than you you forget you didnt serve
and yes i know you were to old
but i served and unless you were thewre as he wasnt there its bogus
the enemy dosnt follow rules you fight to win
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I think I can keep track of things like that pretty well. And I was too YOUNG, not too old.
You were not there either Mark, regardless of your past military experience.
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i do have experiance some of us served
and know our medias way of doing a miss service helps sell
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but again i served have experiance in warfare.
what murtha is doing is hurting good troops.
but then again you wouldnt care.
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And I actually agree that he shouldn't have spoken as if they're guilty before the investigation is complete. But I'm also not closing my eyes and ears to the idea that the story could possibly be true, and I'm not calling Murtha's credibility into question because of his looks.
So what say we just wait and see what the facts turn out to be and form our opinions based on that.
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The brass talk to him and tell him things. Do you think his coming out against the war when he did was just coincidence? It reflected the same lack of confidence in the current top leadership by the activy duty brass that was later shown by the statements of their retired "brothers." Think of him as the voice of the generals who can't speak out directly themselves and you won't be far off the mark.
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i rather think of the dead soldiers.
and i dont respect him
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Let's wait for the investigation to be over. Although, we do know that the military covers EVERYTHING up
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By all accounts this is My Lai all over again, except on a much smaller scale, thank God. And the military unoficially admits it, according to the news media (unofficially because the investigation is ongoing, so officially thay can't comment). If it were "a good shoot, why have three senior officers already been reassigned, apparently for their part in a cover-up?
The original story was reportedly that the Marine killed by an IED and the dead civilians were all on the same bus together!
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...unquestionably correct...even before the investigation has even got started good.
After all, we're dealing with people that SCRAPE THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL...right Dave???
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correspondent for a major news medium, speaking on the basis of personal "off the record" information provided from high up in the Pentagon. That's a lot more authroitative than either me or Michelle Malkin.
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Meanwhile, stop addressing the personalities of those you disagree with, rather than their statements. Doing so is a violation of the TOS, and will be treated accordingly. And that is NOT just my opinion.
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Or, Evie, do you propose that a coverup is the correct response to an apparent atrocity because revealing it hurts morale and makes us look bad to the rest of the world? Malkin's claim that maybe they'll be cleared is nonsense, according to Jim Miklaszewski on last night's NBC Nightly News: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/.
>> Military officials told NBC News that the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right....
Military officials say Marine Corp photos taken immediately after the incident show many of the victims were shot at close range, in the head and chest, execution-style. One photo shows a mother and young child bent over on the floor as if in prayer, shot dead, said the officials, who spoke to NBC News on condition of anonymity because the investigation hasn't been completed.
One military official says it appears the civilians were deliberately killed by the Marines, who were outraged at the death of their fellow Marine.
?This one is ugly,'' one official told NBC News.
Three Marine officers ? commanders in Haditha ? have been relieved of duty, and at least 12 Marines in all are under investigation for what would be the worst single incident involving the deliberate killing of civilians by U.S. military in Iraq. <<
And just for balance, let's hear from the other side of the political spectrum from Malkin (Stan Goff of the Huffington Post): Murtha's Example.
>> But in January 2006, Time Magazine went to the Pentagon with video footage of the scene and 28 eyewitness reports that suggested something else happened altogether. Those reports, photographs, and video made an extremely strong case that the Marines of Kilo Company went on a vengeance rampage, kicked in the doors of civilian homes, and slaughtered 15 people, including men, women, and small childen, two of the adults being elderly grandparents.
The Time story went public in March 2006. Subsequent inquires, outside the military -- who insists it is still investigating -- have strongly supported the eyewitness reports.
There is some kind of unwritten protocol to give troops the benefit of the doubt beyond anything that would be reasonable for anyone else. Catharine MacKinnon writes, ''Manners are often taken more seriously than politics. There's a poltics to that.''
If anyone in the United States were a suspect in 15 homicides, it's a pretty good bet they'd be in custody. It's also a pretty good bet that these guys are not. <<
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The length of time this investigation is taking, after a clear initial coverup, is not helping in the battle for hearts and minds we need to succeed, EdH.
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SO WHAT? there is NOTHING we can do to change any of their "opinons" of us (for the better) and I could care less as long as WE are doing right
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