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MSNBC admits that citizens with guns

Jan 3, 2016 6:16AM PST

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Mr Arrogant? Listen? Hah!!
Jan 3, 2016 10:25AM PST
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RE:citizens with guns stopped the mass shooter
Jan 3, 2016 8:44PM PST

citizen with gun WAS the mass shooter

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what's a cop with a gun?
Jan 3, 2016 8:55PM PST

are you one of those foolish people who believe the gun makes the man?

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RE:what's a cop with a gun?
Jan 3, 2016 9:19PM PST

Is this "cop with a gun" from Chicago?

Nothing good comes out of Chicago, Right?

They are a person with a gun that requires 16 bullets to subdue one individual.

you one of those foolish people who believe the gun makes the man?

YES,,,,I believe the gun makes the man...Makes the man dangerous.

All you need now is money to purchase a firearm...nothing else, should be required to see a shrink, maybe even go to church for a couple years(at least once a week)....IF/WHEN they complete that, they can apply for a permit to go on the practice range for a few months...THEN apply for a firearm permit.

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what's next with you? nailguns?
Jan 3, 2016 9:47PM PST

Instead of using for attaching studs and other objects, that nailgun just speaks to someone to go out and shoot people with it? What's your weedeater whisper to you to do? Cut people off at the ankles? Does someone with a motorcycle helmet just beg you to try out a baseball bat on it to see if it really protects? Does a propane torch scream out to burn some building down? Does a backyard barbeque turn on some pyro urge to burn other things down? Does an instant camera turn on the voyeur urge to use it secretly in places people bathe or change clothes?

All such are tools and can be used responsibly or improperly. It's the person who makes the difference, not the tool.

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RE:that nailgun just speaks to someone to go out and shoot p
Jan 4, 2016 4:49AM PST
that nailgun just speaks to someone to go out and shoot people with it

Go out and shoot?...Obviously you've forgotten/never operated a nailgun.

The nailgun is my weapon of choice...It requires the operator/shooter to be "upclose and personal" since the object/target has to be in physical contact with the weapon, not like a handgun/rifle.

Have the legalized MJ in MD yet?
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Since your mind seems to travel
Jan 4, 2016 7:10AM PST

into 'sicko' territory with your examples and thought process during debates and discussions in a public manner, does that mean you are dangerous because you can't control your impulsive/compulsive instincts? Should someone hear 'see something, say something' because we are worried for your neighbors since you can't get to any of us?

You're getting weirder and weirder, JP.......

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RE: into 'sicko' territory
Jan 4, 2016 7:24AM PST

You're getting weirder and weirder, JP.......

As Al pacino questioned.....Are YOU talkin' to ME?....Are YOU talkin' to ME?....

I didn't make THIS post

nailguns? What's your weedeater whisper to you to do? Cut people off at the ankles? Does someone with a motorcycle helmet just beg you to try out a baseball bat on it to see if it really protects? Does a propane torch scream out to burn some building down? Does a backyard barbeque turn on some pyro urge to burn other things down? Does an instant camera turn on the voyeur urge to use it secretly in places people bathe or change clothes?

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RE:Should someone hear 'see something, say something'
Jan 4, 2016 7:52AM PST
Should someone hear 'see something, say something' because we are worried for your neighbors since you can't get to any of us?

Just so I understand your question.

Perhaps you could clarify WHY anyone would harm their neighbour because they can't harm someone who is NOT their neighbour.

Let's say your family member sends info of your weird behaviour to homeland security, you find out and take your revenge out on an innocent neighbour.

Should someone hear 'see something, say something' because we are worried for your neighbors since you can't get to any of us?

IF you hear 'see something, say something' because we are worried for your neighbors YES...someone SHOULD, BECAUSE Someone IS concerned for "the neighbours"...It's not about " any of us".

I've given you instructions on how to win a petition in another post in this thread......perhaps you could try and get one for these nutbars

Do you recall a few years ago when the free cell phones were being given out... and you didn't think it was right? Are these the type of people that would have family members reporting (ratting out) strange behaviour of fellow family members to homeland security?
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If I recall that discussion you refer to re: phones
Jan 4, 2016 8:23AM PST

YOU think family members SHOULD rat out their relatives receiving them, because YOU asked if I had ratted out my neighbors and relatives who HAD received them....or did you forget THAT end of the discussion, conveniently? Check that Alz, JP.

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No comment on Bundy?
Jan 4, 2016 12:22PM PST

I didn't expect one...had to ask though.

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RE:YOU think family members SHOULD rat out their relatives
Jan 4, 2016 12:59PM PST
YOU think family members SHOULD rat out their relatives receiving them,

Ask yourself how I knew about them receiving free gov cell phones.

YOU told me/the internet/the world...is that considered "ratting them out"?
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Evidently BO's people
Jan 4, 2016 1:11PM PST

don't actually READ internet posts (or they would be catching a lot of home grown bad guys out there).....but YOU were encouraging me to make a call even to the point of asking me repeatedly over time if I finally had.

Some of the stupidest crap bothers the hell out of you when you find you can't debate something anymore.........

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RE: or they would be catching a lot of home grown bad guys
Jan 4, 2016 1:26PM PST
or they would be catching a lot of home grown bad guys out there

Are you talking about the Bundy Gang?
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(NT) Have they actually hurt or killed anyone?
Jan 4, 2016 1:43PM PST
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You can break the law
Jan 4, 2016 7:32PM PST

without hurting or killing anyone.

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again you show
Jan 4, 2016 2:27PM PST

you fail to understand matters like range laws in the western states. You just like to blabber.

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Don't you mean Open Range Laws?
Jan 4, 2016 7:40PM PST

Do they consider inside a government building "Open Range"?

how bout on top of a 200 foot fire watch tower?

No cattle up there "grazing".

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another nothing argument
Jan 5, 2016 6:21AM PST

you toss things that have nothing to do with the discussion into it, no application whatsoever, and act like it applies. Nobody was talking about buildings. Do you even know the difference between an ranch house and a barn? If so, maybe there's a hope you will eventually understand what "range" and "open" mean. We keep hoping for you...

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RE: Nobody was talking about buildings
Jan 5, 2016 8:26AM PST

I was ...and Bundys Gang is occupying them

you claim it's about "open range laws/range laws" WHAT are they doing in "federal buildings"?

Armed protesters refuse to leave federal building in Oregon

Give YOUR explanation of range laws and being in government buildings...they are using the building to shelter the animals?

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Bundy's group
Jan 5, 2016 10:39AM PST

doesn't recognize the Federal Government's land grab, which includes that building, because they never had permission from the State's government to take it. THAT'S what their fight is about.

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Ask yourself how a state "joins" the Union
Jan 5, 2016 10:45PM PST
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Look at what land is owned in each state
Jan 5, 2016 11:08PM PST
http://www.deseretnews.com/top/2318/50/Nevada-From-03-to-811-What-percentage-of-each-state-is-owned-by-the-federal-government.html

In my home state of florida they own about 13%, but their payment of tax to the states on that land is only $1.10 per acre. Wow, I'm sure some farmers, ranchers, et al would love to only pay that amount of tax on the land they own. The laughable part is the feds claim that's paid "in lieu of taxes" to make up for lost tax revenue the states could obtain from others owning the lands.

Compare to Nevada where the feds own 80% or more of the state and only pay 40 cents per acre "in lieu of taxes".

Starting to see the problem here? Some of that land in all the states pays the BLM hundreds of thousands of dollars from tourists, mining and forestry interest, etc.

In Nevada, just the tourism makes 8.5 times the amount paid back to Nevada by the feds. That's ONLY for the tourism.
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National Parks, Military Bases, Federal Buildings,
Jan 5, 2016 11:24PM PST

Those 3 comprise about 15% of federal land holdings. All the rest should belong to the states in which they are located, and let the states manage it as they see best. We need a law that limits the federal govt from owning more than a percentage of property in each state, perhaps somewhere between 5-10%, of course it would be greater where there's national parks, but even those should be examined to see if all the land in the parks are necessary for the park or would better serve the states being sold into private hands.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/federal-land-ownership/422637/

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RE: but YOU were encouraging me to make a call
Jan 4, 2016 1:29PM PST
but YOU were encouraging me to make a call even to the point of asking me repeatedly over time if I finally had.

"Calling your bluff" is not "encouraging"

call someone's bluff
to demand that someone prove a claim or is not being deceptive. All right, I'll call your bluff. Show me you can do it! Tom said, "You've made me really angry, and I'll punch you if you come any closer!" "Go ahead," said Bill, calling his bluff.

en·cour·ag·ing
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adjective
adjective: encouraging

giving someone support or confidence; supportive.
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The difference
Jan 5, 2016 7:28AM PST

Call a bluff

When someone pretends to be about to do something, and another person challenges them to actually do it.

Originally from poker, when someone acts like they have good cards and their opponent makes them prove it.

The aim of a bluff is to scare or intimidate someone. The use in poker is so that an opponent will quit the round. >>>

I never pretended to be about to do anything......you made that assumption as you usually do about me, and then nagged me repeatedly about it by asking if I had done it yet.

Unfortunately, you failed miserably at 'calling a bluff' and couldn't intimidate or scare me into doing your bidding.

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RE:couldn't intimidate or scare me into doing your bidding
Jan 5, 2016 8:33AM PST

You mean I couldn't get you to show your cards/prove you claim?

That's because you "folded"

Fold... To fold is to discard one's hand and forfeit interest in the current pot. No further bets are required by the folding player, but the player cannot win. Folding may be indicated verbally or by discarding one's hand face down into the pile of other discards called the muck, or into the pot

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Prove WHAT claim?
Jan 5, 2016 10:40AM PST

I NEVER made any claim.......IF you assumed one, that's on you, as usual.

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RE: MSNBC?
Jan 5, 2016 7:49PM PST

THIS MSNBC? the one with extreme liberal left leanings

YOUR words below

And what position do you THINK they're going to historically take given their extreme liberal left leanings?

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Yes, I used their story
Jan 6, 2016 2:22AM PST

because it was an 'out of the blue' admission that you never see from the left, let alone THAT particular program. That doesn't mean that I have hope for them coming out of the 'dark side' because they are nothing if not consistent in their radical beliefs.

Would YOU use a FoxNews source willingly? Even when they defended your views, which they actually DO more often than you think? I don't think so because you couldn't bring yourself to subscribe to their website (which you don't have to do in order to read anything) nor could you watch their cable tv channel.