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Question

moveing app from internal to sd, not enough storage space...

Apr 5, 2016 6:35PM PDT

I'm trying to move app's from my internal storage on my LG Stylo h631 to the sd storage. It wont transfer anything, says not enough storage space. My internal storage says 8.17GB used of 16GB and my sd storage says 500MB used of 28.96GB. Why am I getting "not enough storage space" message when trying to transfer an app? I cleaned all app cache and even transfered everything from sd card to phone and reformated it and transfered apps back but still stops letting me transfer once it gets to 500MB. I got the card from walmart on sale for $15 think it's a PNY. The phone storage in file manager says 36.24 GB available 39.54 GB total.

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Clarification Request
have you read the manual
Apr 5, 2016 6:40PM PDT

or the requirements of the app? Maybe the apps only work if on the internal.

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Answer
You stopped short of telling all.
Apr 5, 2016 7:37PM PDT

Is the “Move to SD card” Option Grayed Out?
What apps don't move? And what OS, etc.

Remember I only ask to fill in the blanks. You should be aware this is a frequently asked question but to leave out details means you may get bad answers.

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More info
Apr 6, 2016 6:38AM PDT

It's not grayed out. It lets me choose to transfer it but once it gets to 90% the message pops up. I have android 6.0 on this phone. Any app that has the option to transfer won't transfer anymore, like skype, ifunny or a game. I had skype on it before I moved everything back onto the phone to format the sd card and others that arent transfering now but once the card reaches about 500 mb used it wont let me transfer any more. On the post above i typed the storage thats on my phone right now and the phone i'm using. Need any more info? Also thx for the replys

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Skype to the SD Card
Apr 6, 2016 8:14AM PDT

Is a well done discussion. https://www.google.com/#q=skype+won%27t+move+to+sd+card finds those priors. There are some apps that are marked not to move and so they don't.

I don't want you to think this hasn't been discussed. Also there are folk that think there's a solution here. Android is changing and in some versions this move was removed. So not much new to add here except you seem to be seeing what everyone else has reported.

If this is unacceptable to you, make this the reason you want a refund on this phone.

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Specific back and forth on the topic.
Apr 6, 2016 8:31AM PDT
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Skype not the prob
Apr 6, 2016 10:31AM PDT

Skype was just an example. I had it on my sd card before i moved everything back to the phone to format the card but once i started moving things back to the card and it reached 500 mb it stoped letting me move stuff onto it, skype was one of the things i had on the card before and so were some of the games so i know they can be transfered but wont now that my card has 500 mb on it but its a 32gb card.

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did you format the full size of the sd card?
Apr 6, 2016 10:39AM PDT

If so, was it done on the phone, or using a computer?

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With phone
Apr 6, 2016 1:04PM PDT

I formated it using the phone. There was a format option i touched, it didn't ask about a certain size. Now it says 520mb used out of 28.96gb. i took history eraser off of it and put ifunny onto it and ifunny is a little larger size than history eraser. It was at 501 before i did that. I've only had this phone for 5 days too. If that makes a diff at all. Thx again for the replys.

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Take it out
Apr 7, 2016 7:04AM PDT

put in USB adapter and format it on the computer instead for the full amount. Put back in and see if that solves the size problem.

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So you say Skype moved on a freshly formatted card?
Apr 6, 2016 6:22PM PDT

Many folk say it didn't. This is starting to sound like a fake SD card.

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Fake?
Apr 7, 2016 6:23AM PDT

Walmart would sell a fake sd card? I didnt get a cheap one from ebay... and yeah skype gives me an option to move it to sd card, i had it on there the first time, why would that make the sd card fake?

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Limited use of space
Apr 7, 2016 7:09AM PDT
"Now it says 520mb used out of 28.96gb. i took history eraser off of it and put ifunny onto it and ifunny is a little larger size than history eraser. It was at 501 before i did that."

This sounds to me like it formatted the SD, probably the full amount, and the size differences you see between boh those placed on the SD, indicate that's true. The problem seems to be how much you are allowed to move onto the SD card, even if it is formatted for the full size. Did you try putting both of those on it at the same time? Will that work?
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Finally found the prob and a fix...
Apr 7, 2016 2:05PM PDT

Found a thread on a diff forum about this prob and how to fix it. Guess its an LG thing not allowing to set sd as internal with the marshmallow update. Someone found out how to fix it but you need a comp and i dont have one but heres a link to the thread about it and how to fix it. For whoever has an lg.
http://androidforums.com/threads/about-lg-g-stylo-internals-storage.984617/

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Great find.
Apr 7, 2016 2:37PM PDT

Rare enough that I didn't find it with the usual google searches.

Hope the carrier relents and issues a fix or why bother with the this model?

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(NT) thanks for the tip!
Apr 7, 2016 6:44PM PDT
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Looks like linux file system is the answer
Apr 7, 2016 6:54PM PDT

not surprising since Android was born from Linux.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3o6u80/psa_i_formatted_my_sd_card_as_internal_storage/

Before KK, any app could access any and all the data on extSD(here on just SD). Obviously this was a giant security hole. So they upped the sec. game with KK and restricted apps to their own folders on SD. This broke functionality of a lot of apps, like gallery/camera apps and several others. So in LP, Google offered a median solution, letting apps request access to whole tree, getting access through file/doc picker via API. Even this wasn't enough for some though, as it lacks any "seemless" feel and is quite janky.

\You'd ask, why all this? Simple. Almost every SD card out there is formatted with FAT file system. It is a proprietary FS from Microsoft. Also, it lacks some very imp. features, like per file permissions. This was major reason behind pushing SD cards away from central stream.

With MM, Google finally came up with an elegant solution. Now, they simply format SD card to EXT4, same FS as your internal partition(on some phones now, its F2FS, but for standard AOSP, its still EXT). This way, Android™ can have all the FS features on SD, all the control including permissions and encryption(optional). This also makes SD cards just another partition on the phone to be used for data.

Drawbacks are initial formatting of data on SD cards, and SD card removal making everything on it, inaccessible. But given benefits, its the best approach Google could have taken. I'm surprised it took them this long, given how many droids are sold with meager internal storage and SD cards as expansion.

TL;DR: SD cards had a few issues, Google tried bypassing, messed up, finally fixed the OG problem. SD cards = good now.