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"Mother Nature puts brakes on Greenland's ice sheet "

Mother Nature puts brakes on Greenland's ice sheet ocean slide

http://www.newkerala.com/one.php?action=fullnews&id=81395

"According to the research team, who has studied the longest available record of ice and water flow in the region, since 1991, the western edge of Greenland's ice sheet has actually slowed its ocean-bound progress by 10%.
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"Over the course of the 17 years, the flow of the ice sheet actually decreased slightly, in some parts by as much as 10%."
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(NT) Good for her.

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Nothing says "scientific objectivity"...

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... as when you click on a link to a "scientific" article, and see this banner... LINK

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BTW... it is an interesting article.

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It simply states that the glaciers themselves, are in no danger of rocketing down the side of the mountains because of melt-water acting as a float underneath.

"For some time, glaciologists believed that more meltwater equaled higher ice speeds," said Van de Waal. "This would be kind of disastrous, but apparently it is not happening,"

According to Van de Waal, increasing amounts of melt-water have not correlated to increasing the speed of glacier movement.

So... the glaciers in Greenland are melting faster ?

Interesting.

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At least you read some of it.

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"Over the course of the 17 years, the flow of the ice sheet actually decreased slightly, in some parts by as much as 10%."

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"flow" being what ?

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Melt water drainage or ice sheet movement ?

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(NT) Melting and movement are related

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Uh... yeah !

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That is what the article is about.

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that is correct.

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If it is melting, it should be moving but it can move without melting

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RE: If it is melting

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IF?

It's only in the last five years or so that the warming signal has really been visible," AND 3% and 5% more ice is being lost because of lubrication

The water seeps through cracks in the kilometer-thick ice to bedrock, where it acts as a lubricant.

Warming = melting?

Lubricant/lubrication = water = melting

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(NT) Can it melt without moving?

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The question is

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Why did you say "if"?

You posted a link to an article....I quoted from the article......the article says it is melting.

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(NT) Quit taking things so literally, JP ! ;-D

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Much too bad

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That the proper reply was deleted.
Still stands

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Ummm... don't you mean...

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... it can melt, without moving ?

Within the first fews weeks of the annual melt, the glaciers move up to 4 times its' normal speed... until the frozen "moulins" become unblocked. Thus, the scientists think that increased melt water does not necessarily increase the speed of glacial movement and does not cause the glacier to speed down towards the oceans.

The article has nothing to do with climate change ... it has everything to do with the mechanics of glacial movement. More melt water does not equal more movement.

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"should"

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Did you see that?

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(NT) So ?

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RE: it can move without melting

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But it moves better WITH melting?

I know it's easier to slip/fall on wet ice.

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Yep, the link source doesn't look

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all that "scientific", but "According to a report in New Scientist, Greenland's mighty ice sheet has enough water locked away to raise global sea level 6.5 metres were it to melt. Each summer, vast lakes of meltwater form on its surface ..."

That's a respected magazine, worth considering. (Even though I'm inclined to disagree with this particular finding.)

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Darn it, Time to...

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...get out our blow torches.

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