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Money from corporate tax cuts

is being shared with employees. I believe this is what's called "trickle down" and it can actually work. The idea is to keep the money moving within the private sector where people are productive in manufacturing and in providing needed services. They don't need to be on the dole or looking for government jobs. I rather like that idea.

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Corporate decisions are made every day

to shut down losing assets.....Sam's Club has been on the downhill for years, just like K-Mart/Sears has been. You don't hang on to liabilities....you cut your losses.....just like Solyndra did after millions of tax dollars went into it and they never made even ONE solar panel.

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RE: You don't hang on to liabilities....you cut your losses

AND you don't give money away that you don't have (bonuses) ........

give with one hand take away with another...

THEN brag about the bonuses.....

Perhaps you could explain how a bonus increases profitability since it's all about the balance sheet.

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This is because private enterprise

does not have folks to call on fund projects that are just money pits. Government does. It's us and we can't do much about it.

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Ok then

You find a venture capitalist group and try to tell them that your failing retail outlet is actually a good investment. Of course, you could always pull at their heartstrings by acknowledging that they'll incur losses but that the few who shop there really need that store to remain open. See how far that goes.

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RE:Of course, you could always pull at their heartstrings
Of course, you could always pull at their heartstrings by acknowledging that they'll incur losses but that the few who shop there really need that store to remain open. See how far that goes.

IF that works for you and the venture capitalist agrees....then.bob's your uncle....
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Re: money pits

I seem to remember the Ford Edsel. You surely do also.
And just this week it was in the news that Pfizer laid off 300 people by stopping a very expensive long lasting project to find a cure for Alzheimer and Parkinson.

Both private enterprises. And lets not forget the 8 billion Micosoft paid for Nokia.

Private enterprises don't have a Congress full of Republicans whose primary purpose is to NOT spend money. The government has.

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Trickle down

I run a business.
The gov gives me a $10 tax break.
I give my employee a one time $1 bonus.
That's good the $1 now moves through the economy.
Next year I still get the $10.
My employee gets nothing.
Trickle down just stopped unless I give my employee another $1 bonus.
I could give my employee a $1 pay raise but I'm not going to do that because the gov might take away my $10 tax break.

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Yep

You can always look on the gloomy side when speculating as to what might happen next. "Behind every silver lining..." some would say.

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Isn't it tragic, if also sort of funny

How Liberals believe more money in the hands of the citizens is corrupting, but more money into govt and politicos who want to please certain constituents with extra money and privileges, isn't corrupting? If there were no taxes, the only Liberals left would be those who are truly Liberal in the better meaning of the word, by using their OWN money for whatever they felt needed doing.

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That's news
https://www.transparency.org/topic/detail/private_sector is about corruption in the private enterprise section. They pay, corrupt government employees receive.
Far less money goes from private persons to corrupt governments, I think (I don't count taxes).

And I think Liberal is less about money than about morality (or lack of moral, you'll say, like gay marriage, equal rights, abortion and issues like that).
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RE:How Liberals believe more money in the hands of

How Liberals believe more money in the hands of the citizens is corrupting,

Some here would call those people with 'more money in their hands"...Snowflakes....

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No, JP...the snowflakes

are those who continue to expect the government to give them freebies so they don't have to support themselves OR the government like the rest of us do. Hey, maybe you ARE right....'those people with more money in their hands' ARE snowflakes....it's just not THEIR money in their hands, it's OTHER people's money.

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RE:it's just not THEIR money in their hands, it's OTHER
it's just not THEIR money in their hands, it's OTHER people's money.

It's NOT your money, his money, her money, THEIR money or OTHER people's money....it's EVERYBODIES money.....


YOU are "American" aren't you?

or have you declared your cabin in the woods to be an independent country? TONIVILLE, Lalaland??
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That's why liberals are bad for the country.....

because you DO forget that it's not EVERYBODY's money, JP.....It IS OUR money, and it doesn't belong to the GOVERNMENT to do whatever it wants with it and to keep taking MORE because they decide they want more of it to spend so foolishly. Do YOU allow the Canadian government to decide YOUR monthly budget and what you spend it on? WOULD you?

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RE:. government to decide YOUR monthly budget

the "government" decides what YOU spend YOUR money on?

When did this start?

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When the Obamacare MANDATE was issued, JP

what rock have YOU been hiding under for seven years? (I say seven because Obamare started a year after BO was elected and Trump ended the penalty when HE took the oath)

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RE:what rock have YOU been hiding under for seven years?

I've been here just as long as you....so the same rock....

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And yet, you don't know the answer to a

question YOU asked???????? Or has that ALZ kicked in again?

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RE:And yet, you don't know the answer to a
And yet, you don't know the answer to a question YOU asked??


No...I don't know the answer to a question I asked...

These questions

the "government" decides what YOU spend YOUR money on?

When did this start?


YOU haven't responded to the questions I asked.
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I DID answer it and you couldn't dispute it

so you ignored the answer, as usual........and pretend I didn't respond.

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"bad for the country"

Yep. Like short people, they got no reason to live.

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You tell 'em,

Randy. He did one about the violence in Baltimore too. Not much has changed. The short people and Baltimore killings are still with us.

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tragic

Not sure how liberals think although a member likes to label me as such.

I think that trickle up is a better method of getting the economy moving than trickle down.

Putting a bunch of money in the hands of the pols and then letting them decide which select group will get the money based on political gains seems a little iffy unless your the pol on the plus side of that.

I suppose that's how politics works.....use tax payer money to buy votes.

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Trickle up???

That sounds like money flowing from the basement dwellers to those who live in the penthouses. I don't think you mean it that way.

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Trickle up

I meant that if the consumers have the money they will spend it.

When they do spend it that will trickle through the economy which will create demand.

If demand goes up then businesses will adjust to meet this demand.

Hire more workers, get better equipment, build another factory.

Whatever it takes to satisfy this demand and make money.

Giving money directly to the penthouse and expecting it to trickle down to the basement dweller does not seem like a good plan to me.

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So where should these "consumers" get that money?

Should the priority be through employment or should it be from the government till? I know some folks don't think it makes a difference but the government gets their tax money from those who are employed outside of itself. Taxes paid back to the government by their own employees is more like recycling than new production.

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Priority

I think it should be on employment.

If the government is going to step into the mix don't give money to the penthouse and expect it to trickle down.

50% or more will go into the penthouse owners pocket.
They already have more money than they can spend.

Give the money to the basement dweller and let it trickle up.
I suspect they will spend every nickel.

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You just described EXACTLY what the tax cuts

will DO, Bob....."Give the money to the basement dweller and let it trickle up.
I suspect they will spend every nickel."

You SEE the picture, but you have such a hard time admitting it.

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