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Minutemen Installing Ariz. Border Fence

May 27, 2006 1:04PM PDT

Minutemen Installing Ariz. Border Fence
May 27 10:40 PM US/Eastern
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By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN


PALOMINAS, Ariz. _ Scores of volunteers gathered at a remote ranch Saturday to help a civilian border-patrol group start building a short security fence in hopes of reducing illegal immigration from Mexico.

The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps plans to install a combination of barbed wire, razor wire, and in some spots, steel rail barriers along the 10-mile stretch of private land in southeastern Arizona.

They hope it prompts the federal government to do the same along the entire Arizona border.

President Bush has pledged to deploy as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to strengthen enforcement at the border. The guardsmen would fill in on some behind-the-lines Border Patrol jobs while that agency's force is expanded.

But the Minutemen have said it's not enough. The group's founder, Chris Simcox, said they want a secure fence and they're starting at the site where his first patrols began in November 2002.

Rancher John Ladd and his son, Jack, were hopeful the effort would limit the illegal immigrants and drug runners who have cut the small fence along the property or just driven over it to cross into the U.S.

"We've been fighting this thing for 10 years with the fence, and nobody will do anything," Jack Ladd said.

build it strong

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/27/D8HSGRDO0.html

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Not that i don't appreciate...
May 27, 2006 4:12PM PDT

the work and intentions of the people involved in this effort to prevent people from coming here over here.

Not for nothing,but is a fence nothing more than a minor inconvenience.Who can't dig under or climb over a fence.I'm quite sure that there must be a more suitable solution.


All the years that this has been going on and all the money the U.S. has,and not to mention the technology,this is the best we could do.No wonder why we can't keep them out,do i have to say the word,DUH!

Tom

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So simple when you think about it, isn't it?
May 27, 2006 4:22PM PDT

So does that mean we aren't protected from terrorist after all? While planes are being delay, searched, turned back for every reason possible, the terrorist could be pouring in over or under a barbed wire fence?

Thanks. That should help me sleep well tonight.

Sad

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I think that a large motivation
May 27, 2006 11:40PM PDT

of the fence is to deter the illegals from crossing through the landowner's property. This is no simple chain-link fence that can be hopped or dug under... there is a series of obstacles that will likely direct illegals to different crossings.
This fence is less about stopping illegal immigration than a landowner exerting his rights to defend himself and his family from criminals.

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Maybe it's a sign of something new
May 28, 2006 1:00AM PDT

As the Declaration says,

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. ?

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

Think it's time for a new political party! As an aside, people here in Athens,Ga were lined up along the highway waving American flags. Some had signs but I couldn't read them, bad eyes. Don't know if it was for Memorial Day or immigration woes or both.

Tom

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Good idea.
May 30, 2006 6:10AM PDT

If History teaches us nothing else we must learn that walls and fences always work.

</sarcasm>

Dan

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and
May 30, 2006 6:25AM PDT

when you do nothing you wind up invaded (no sarcasm intended)
so amigo how do you like your tacos

and amigo = friend in spanish you no the rules must translate