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by Steven Haninger / October 29, 2017 2:47 PM PDT
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Wait a minute. Did you just inject a trump into this?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 29, 2017 3:02 PM PDT

By the way, one of my ex-bosses when we showed them the server room.

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If one watches for the full 12+ minutes
by Steven Haninger / October 29, 2017 3:31 PM PDT

they'll see a trump and an obama reference. This video actually came to me through my son and after a meeting I attended in our local parochial school related to classroom technology. I'd posted a question in another forum to which you'd responded. That question was in regard to what I felt was a need to better prepare for expanding the inventory of networked devices and I appreciated your comments. One of the participants in the advisory meeting had mentioned introducing simple coding to kids while in elementary school so the gentleman's comments in the video fit the conversation I'd been in. Personally, I was reluctant to agree with trying to teach "new and cool" stuff to kids who didn't have basic human communications skills. I'd considered such an early introduction to coding to be a distraction from things of greater importance at that age. I won't be around to see what the results might be unless I'm allowed to observe from another world.

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I worry that No Child Left Behind has done a lot of harm.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 29, 2017 3:43 PM PDT

Music and many other social skill building classes have been cut. And we've yet to come to grips with sports related issues such as CTE. It's unpopular to suggest outright bans to charges to the games.

Back to computers and the young(lings?) My son started early and I don't see the downside. Coding may be changing by the time they hit the workforce but why not meld coding concepts into the math system? I've lost count of new to the coding class folk that don't know what a variable, integer and such are. These are best learned early along with logic equations. Didn't even have to broach coding to get ready to learn how to code.

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Variable, integer are basic vocabulary in pre-Algebra.
by drpruner / October 31, 2017 12:33 PM PDT
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Seems some don't remember that.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 31, 2017 12:59 PM PDT

There are other terms like constants and more that easily come from math, physics and science courses.

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Older calculators
by Steven Haninger / October 31, 2017 1:29 PM PDT

I recall a "K" key. I don't see those anymore.

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Terms change
by Steven Haninger / October 31, 2017 1:28 PM PDT

I learned to solve for "unknowns". I don't recall using the word "variable" in algebraic expressions. I also remember struggling to help my own children with their math homework. That was one subject in which I did did well but found myself befuddled when working with my son. The processes were similar enough but the language had changed. I wasn't helping much.

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It's true
by Bob__B / October 29, 2017 7:21 PM PDT

I don't think the message is about coding but just finding common ground and moving things forward.

The problem is we keep sending far left and right people to Washington and they won't even talk to each other.

They just push their agenda which the other side rejects.

The result is a stalemate.

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My interest was really in early education
by Steven Haninger / October 30, 2017 2:30 AM PDT
In reply to: It's true

I'd been a volunteer in school that my own children went to and where my wife was their first "technology coordinator". There's no real way to describe the responsibilities she had because it was new when she began. My own job was to assist her in keeping things running as smoothly as possible. I did most of the ethernet work and configuration of the PCs. I also installed the network cabinet, made all the patch cables, ran conduit and did all the punch down work. None of this had I ever done elsewhere. At first, it seemed the teachers were uninterested in adding PCs to every room and using internet service. Now, they all scream when something's not working. My wife retired from the position 2 years ago and the school is now on it's 3rd new tech coordinator since she left. No one lasts. The school is now developing an advisory committee for technology. My wife and I are both on that committee. We had our first meeting this past week and I can see that the "forming" process will be an interesting one. I tend to change slowly and methodically while some folks want to immediately grasp everything that seems like a cool idea. This brings me to politics as I really see our two parties having some similarity in the two approaches. I would guess that I'd fit more as a "conservative" in my approach while some others could be defined as being "progressive". To me, one difference between our two parties is the difference of the speed in which they want to move. For one side, the urgency is based on their own life expectancy and, on the other, it's not as dependent on being around to witness the results of their efforts. The video I posted just seemed to fit some of the discussion I'd been involved in this past week.

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Conservative or progressive
by Bob__B / October 30, 2017 4:26 AM PDT

It does not much matter unless they get so locked into their opinion that they refuse to talk to the other side.

I can have a discussion with someone and agree to some of what they say and disagree with other things.

At least I can talk with this person.

So we take what we can agree on and work with that.

That does not seem to be happening in Washington.

It's 'my way or the highway'.

Some folks want to jump on the latest and greatest and others favor a wait and see approach.
I'm in the wait and see camp.

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I really dislike the political labeling system
by Steven Haninger / October 30, 2017 8:04 AM PDT

We take useful descriptive adjectives and turn them into pointless nouns having no clear definition.

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