Mexico threatens lawsuits over Guard

by C1ay May 16, 2006 9:27AM PDT

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) -- Mexico warned Tuesday it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops detain migrants on the border and some officials said they fear the crackdown will force illegal crossers into more perilous areas to avoid detection.

President Bush announced Monday that he will send 6,000 National Guard troops to the 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) U.S.-Mexico border, but said the troops will provide intelligence and surveillance support to U.S. Border Patrol agents and will not catch and detain illegal immigrants.

"If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard starting to directly participate in detaining people ... we would immediately start filing lawsuits through our consulates," Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said in an interview with a Mexico City radio station....

Mexican newspapers Tuesday characterized the National Guard plan as a hardening of the U.S. position, and some criticized President Vicente Fox for not taking a stronger stand, though Fox called Bush on Sunday to express his concerns....

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If Mr. Fox doesn't like our stance regarding our border then maybe he should try to explore how other countries feel about their borders. I would personally like to see him attempt entering countries like China, North Korea, Russia, Germany and several others at unapproved entry points if he lives long enough to try them after the first two....

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wellif the die its there own fault

by Mark5019 May 16, 2006 9:57AM PDT

i dont have any sympathy for law breakers.
and as to fox screw that lousey a wipe hes taking there money

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(NT) (NT) Yep..Here we go Pancho Villa rides again. (lawyers)

by Rolway May 16, 2006 10:02AM PDT

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If his country wasn't in such a state

by Diana Former Forum moderator May 16, 2006 10:31AM PDT

in spite of the oil and drug revenues, we wouldn't be having this discussion and people wouldn't be putting their lives in their hands to get here.

Diana

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AMEN!!!!!

by Glenda May 16, 2006 10:40AM PDT

Maybe we should send the jerk a bill for taking care of his people? Bill them for the taxes they don't pay, and the drivers licenses they fail to get!!!

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its been done

by Mark5019 May 16, 2006 11:03AM PDT

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usimmi154742784may15,0,3736847.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print

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May 15, 2006

PENDLETON, Ore. - Out of ideas and low on cash one cold morning, the man with the biggest badge in town tapped out a letter to the leader of Mexico.

"Dear Precidente (sic) Fox," it began.

"My name is John Trumbo. I am Sheriff of Umatilla County in northeastern Oregon." Illegal immigrants "from your country" who committed crimes here, the letter said, cost Americans lots of money.

Last year, more than 360 of "your citizens" spent time in jail "at a cost of $63 a day which equates to a request for payment of $318,843," the letter said. "At this time, you will not be billed for medical, dental and transportation costs. Your prompt attention to this request will be very much appreciated."

Three months later, Trumbo reports, Vicente Fox has not paid up - or even responded.

The influx of Mexicans, many of them undocumented, has become an increasingly prickly issue. Trumbo's letter voiced the frustration of a region that has been compared with the California farmlands of the 1950s and '60s, a place undergoing a demographic transition.

Between 1990 and 2000, Umatilla County's Hispanic population, including the legal and the illegal, jumped 114 percent to 11,400 people, according to the Census Bureau. About 70,000 people live in the county.

Many residents blame Hispanic immigrants for the region's gang and drug problems.

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Cool! :)

by Glenda May 16, 2006 11:26AM PDT

Now all the States need to take Fox to court for this See how he likes the Lawyers

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only thing

by Mark5019 May 16, 2006 11:48AM PDT

he may default and we be stuck with mexico

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Glenda, the "taxes they don't pay" is a MYTH.

by Dave Konkel [Moderator] May 16, 2006 1:22PM PDT

In fact, most illegals pay MORE than their fair share of taxes, or at least don't get full benefit for taxes they do pay. Do you really think they'll ever benefit from the 7.4% combined SS/Medicare tax they pay, usually under a fake ID? Similarly, there's income tax withholding, and most are probably entitled to a refund that they dare not apply for. They pay sales and gasoline taxes on the same basis as anyone else, and the same "indirect" property tax (since they rarely own homes) as do citizens who rent. The one place that they may stretch services more than the average citizen might be in education costs, but that's tough to say w/o a detailed study. On the one hand, if the family is here it's doubtless larger than the average citizen's family, but on the other hand, in many cases only the adult(s) are here, with the kids back in Mexico or Central America. Even the Fox News panels have to admit that on balance, the illegals are good for the American economy by keeping low-end wages ( and hence inflation) lower than they'd otherwise be.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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ok dk you support lawbreakers we see it

by Mark5019 May 16, 2006 1:29PM PDT

why dont you open your doors harbor them so when they get cought you pay the toll

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Say, Dave...

by J. Vega May 16, 2006 2:18PM PDT

Say, Dave, what happens if you fill out IRS paperwork with a bogus Social Security number?

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that little things not important is it

by Mark5019 May 16, 2006 2:58PM PDT

there just law breakers

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Wrong Dave..........

by Glenda May 16, 2006 2:25PM PDT

90% at least are paid under the table and pay nothing!! The few that do get a paycheck declare 5 or more dependants and pay nothing in.

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Any bet that the

by duckman May 16, 2006 11:52AM PDT

9th Circuit will file an injunction?

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Check this out

by tomron May 16, 2006 12:05PM PDT

Heres an excerpt from this ''The father of an illegal immigrant from Mexico filed a $15 million lawsuit Friday against a Texas rancher who allegedly shot the immigrant to death after he approached the rancher in search of water'' , LINK

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farmer was being attacked by an invader

by Mark5019 May 16, 2006 1:01PM PDT

self defence

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(NT) (NT) and that they'll be reversed on appeal.

by Kiddpeat May 16, 2006 1:09PM PDT

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