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MEDIA GETS PHONE STORY WRONG

May 16, 2006 11:00PM PDT

With great fanfare, USA Today reported last week that AT&T, Bellsouth and Verizon were systematically handing over telephone records to the NSA. People were outraged...their private phone calls were being shared with the government. But there's only one problem.

At least in the case of 2 out of 3 of those companies, it doesn't look like the story is true. Bellsouth has come forward and said their investigation turned up "no contract with the NSA and we are confident that we have turned over no phone records." Oops. So what does USA Today say? They said they contacted Bellsouth a day before the story ran and since the phone company didn't dispute the story, they took it to mean it was true. Guilty until proven innocent.

Now here comes Verizon. They announced yesterday that they did not provide any call records to the NSA. Strike two on USA Today. Verizon went even further, saying any media reports that suggested they did otherwise were completely false...a total fabrication.

USA Today says they are "investigating." It makes you wonder just what else is printed in the paper that's made up.

One more thing. Helen Thomas asked Tony Snow at the White House briefing yesterday if it was true that "that millions of Americans have been wiretapped?" Just where, dear Helen, has that been alleged?

tisk tisk trust the mediaHappy
http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

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Now the question is
May 16, 2006 11:18PM PDT

Which part of the story was wrong.

Wrong that NSA had phone numbers?

Wrong that phone companies "turned over" the numbers?

no contract with the NSA and we are confident that we have turned over no phone records

Did the NSA get the numbers without the knowledge of the phone companies?

If so, How?

I did hear one reference to "parallel" cables in the phone companies.

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There is no question...
May 17, 2006 8:42AM PDT

the "story" is a rehash of ESCHELON first made public back in Clinton's Admin and it is something that not only the NSA participates in but also CANADA and GB (among others). It is about surveying for key words, not verbatim conversations. It is about linking tags to telephone numbers--not names unless names become important due to repetitious hits.

In short, this is old news already found to be a legitimate government endeavor and carried forward by NSAQ under the present admin as it was under the prior admin.

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Well.....I'll be dipped
May 17, 2006 1:28PM PDT
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What I'm beginning to wonder is ...
May 16, 2006 11:29PM PDT

... if they are planting false stories to trip up a leaker. Remember, McCarthy worked in the CIA branch charged with processing complaints about malfeasance...

Evie Happy

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FNC judicial analyst and
May 17, 2006 8:56AM PDT

one of my favorites, Judge Napolitano said yesterday. I shall paraphrase. Under the patriot act you can't reveal if you have been contacted by the FBI and give intel. It is against the law.

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They can refuse to comment...
May 17, 2006 10:29AM PDT

the fact that they are vigorously denying it indicates to me that it never happened.

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"I vigorously deny my refusal to comment because the
May 17, 2006 12:24PM PDT

ongoing investigation which I am investigating prevents me from a firm speculative threat to our national security" says unknown verizon officer. source link:

http://www.newspeekipedia.gov/