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Media eats crow.....again and again

Jun 30, 2007 9:15PM PDT

Refuting and early story

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19528165/


The rush to print and web publishing by our own media is still the enemies best weapon.....nothing that's been sold on the arms market in years past is as effective in reaching the most people. When will they learn to stop and verify the integrity of their sources and proof of what they write?

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" fabricated by insurgents "
Jun 30, 2007 10:16PM PDT

Not by civil war participants? Strange admission by the media

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They've learned a work around
Jun 30, 2007 11:15PM PDT

It's called "print anyway and be prepared to retract and/or apologize" rather than get caught, deny the lie and try to weasel out of it. That tactic has backfired too many times and left their heads rolling...figuratively, of course. Change their ways?? Never! Appearing to be respectable is just as good as being respectable, I suppose, when feeding the gullible public.

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And this surprises you, Steven?
Jul 1, 2007 6:22PM PDT

You wrote, "When will they learn to stop and verify the integrity of their sources and proof of what they write?"

The answer, of course, is: NEVER - as long as they can get away with it. With the mainstream media secure in their role as anti-Bush (some might say anti-American) cheerleaders and chief propaganda organ for the Democrat Party, the truth is merely an inconvenience standing in the way of a rousingly good partisan attack, IMO.

Iraq is a good case study of this. Since the MSM long ago determined that Iraq = Vietnam, a "story" that discredits American involvement and butresses their belief that Iraq is a lost cause fits the template of their bias and deserves maximum dissemination, and the facts (which don't need to be verified as they see it) be damned.

Another great example of this was the Dan Rather National Guard "memos" fiasco. When the "memos" were conclusively proven to be forgeries (and not very good ones at that), Rather was quietly allowed to retire without further consequence. SeeBS did manage to throw Mary Mapes (who quite delusionally still believes in the "memos'" authenticity) under the bus, as there was a need for someone to be sacrificed.

And the MSM wonders why their approval in the marketplace, as evidenced by newspaper circulation and revenue figures or TV "news" ratings, continues to plummet?

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(NT) Funny... I saw no mention of Bush in the article.
Jul 2, 2007 6:19AM PDT
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could be worse
Jul 2, 2007 7:48AM PDT

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could be eating duck

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Peking duck??
Jul 2, 2007 7:55AM PDT

Now, is that an Asian or Oriental dish? Devil

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Shouldn't that be Beijing Duck? ;-D
Jul 2, 2007 8:26AM PDT
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Let's face it-- not the first time....
Jul 2, 2007 9:27AM PDT

....... that information or even intelligence in that country has been erroneous.

I think therefore we need to consider the sources. There have been reports (so far not denied) that the Iraqi police force and even the army has had some who have worked against us.

And there is no doubt that one of the tactics of the insurgents is to foment as much hate and strife among the groups as they can.

I'm reminded of the lies with a capital L told by Sadam's regime that there were no mass graves to be found. Then they were found. And since there have been documented discoveries of mass murders.

I noticed that this incident was reported by international media, including AP.

That led me to think about the dangerous conditions those reporters face, and that there have been lives lost, and hostages taken.

Apparently their "informants" were unreliable. I think this can be true of informants in other areas, as in law enforcement.

(And I remember "Dewey Wins!" ) Happy

I agree with you that there is a rush to publish, more now than ever with so many outlets, including the internet and blogs. Woodward and Bernstein had time to gather enough confirmations.

I think the important thing is that the story was corrected. The correction might not reach fanatics in Iraq, but it will the readers internationally.

BTW, I never heard that story in my TV viewing.

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