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Matte Screen recommendations?

I'm looking for a large "smart" LEDTV with a Matte screen for my bright 15' x 12' living room to replace a 32" Samsung LCD which I loved. I don't need 3D but I watch a lot of sports. I was disappointed that the LGs this year have glossy screens. I was looking at the Samsung 55E6150 and the SharpLC 60C847OU since it doesn't come in 55". I am a bit concerned the 60" is too big for the room. Also, I have not been able to discern picture quality because in Costco the pics running on the Sharp TV were cartoons and in BB it was connected to a game. I know that Sharp historically was not a leader in PQ. Can anyone help?

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A better solution might be to use light control

In reply to: Matte Screen recommendations?

You would be better served by employing better light control in the viewing space instead of suffering over a replacement HDTV that happens to have the desired matte screen, but worse PQ than the model you have currently. By controlling the ambient light in the room you can pick and choose from the vast majority of HDTVs makes/models, including plasma, which offers better handling of fast motion and offers better black levels & contrast. Price will be better too for the same size panel.

I also suggest you do not use badly constructed viewing spaces like Costco or Sam's Club to evaluate PQ of various HDTV models. Go out of the way to find dedicated Home Theater stores that at least provides a semblance of a space for looking at HDTVs. Use sites like Amazon & AVS forum and read the user reviews of any particular HDTV you are interested in based on what you see in the HT store and Costco.

If the following model is what you are looking at, I would be inclined to choose it over the Sharp you mentioned.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11757600

Discussion of the 6100 series @ AVS-
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1403950

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I need the lights on

In reply to: A better solution might be to use light control

Thank you for your reply. I need to be a multitasker and am often doing work in front of the TV or cooking so I need the lights on and reflections on dark scenes annoy me. None of the plasmas have matte screens that I know of. (Saying this, Cnet just gave a rave review to a new plasma and I will try to find and evaluate it.)

I agree that Costco is not the place to judge picture quality, that's why I went to BB. (I also went to PC Richard but they did not have the Sharp 847 to compare.) I have been to AVS forum but the owners of the respective TVs all seem happy with their choice. (Even the Sharp)

I am concerned that the Samsung 6100 which has 120HZ will not be good for watching sports.

Thanks again for trying to help.

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Why wouldn't it be fine for sports?

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Wondering about that one? Please be more detailed.

I would definitely take a second look at plasma if your HDTV won't be getting direct sunlight. Some of the latest Panasonic models have pretty good anti-reflective filters. True matte screens on LCDs are also a thing of the past for the most part, as they are often clear antireflective. More importantly, depending on where the light is entering the viewing space and how the HDTV is situated (especially the angle of the panel), you can get reflections from most large displays. Food for thought anyway.

You should look at a Panasonic ST50/GT50/VT50 to see one in action.

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TV shopping

In reply to: Why wouldn't it be fine for sports?

I thought that with 120Hz you would still have judder with sports.

My windows are perpendicular to the TV but my apt is sunny only in the morning. I was mostly concerned with reflections from the lamps and overhead lights.

After reading the reviews of the Panasonic VT50 in Cnet and flatpanelsHG, I'm anxious to find a store so I can evaluate it.

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All 120Hz isn't the same per se

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Performance of any particular panel will often vary. Even some of the higher end panels can have a few issues with judder and/or fast motion. There is some trial and error involved, basically.

The benefit of plasma is it has less of those issues. The VT50 is a serious HDTV worth considering. If I was personally upgrading right now, that's what I would choose.

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if you're that worried.

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Pepe is right, ST50 is a awesome TV. If you really want a matte screen though, check out LG's 2011 models. LW5600, LW6500 are all excellent TVs regardless if its 2012 or not. They should also be much cheaper since they're 2011 models. They both have matte screens and IMO are good for watching sports also.

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Thanks for your input

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I took a look at theVT50 at BB yesterday. Although I really liked the picture, the reflections of the ceiling lights and the other TV on the wall next to it really bothered me.

I know that people were happy with last year's LGs and was disappointed to see that this year's lineup is glossy. I will try to find 2011 models to check out.

Originally I was going to wait for the full array Sharp 9 series, but now I hear it's not coming. I am leaning towards the Sharp 60 847 even though the PQ is not the same and some of the sets seem to have clouding issues. I guess they all have problems and it's what you can live with.

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Again...

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...*don't* use BB/Costo/etc. as an ample test for viewing space. It's not anything remotely the same as your home viewing area, even including windows, etc. Those places are for the most very minimal fact finding on what features, etc. you can expect. The rest requires proper space to evaluation PQ. Plus, their video feeds suck, even at some of the Magnolia stores.

You would benefit from slowing down and doing more broad research on setting up viewing spaces in general, including brighter multi-purpose spaces like you've expressed interest in. Visit a more detailed discussion site such as AVS, pull up a chair and do a few days minimum of reading before coming to any conclusions based on big box store research. If you don't, I guarantee you will be disappointed with nearly anything you take home from this point onward.

Also, don't throw out the idea of light control, as least in some fashion.

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