< VENT >Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Go back to check for replies and don't even find my post Sad Happened at least twice more yesterday that I caught. And since there are only two choices (edit or post) in the preview screen there's NO way I canceled the posts! < /VENT >

Whew ... now I can calm down Happy

I'm just kinda thinking out loud here about some things. There seems to be a bit of unnecessary paranoia regarding a gun. Norwalk CT has some pretty rough areas so keeping a gun in a dresser drawer doesn't sound all that dangerous to me. We don't even know if the 3 y.o. could access that room, or whose dresser it was kept in.

Getting back to the assurances, you are saying that there is a record kept by the docs/nurses of everything they say. Were she and her husband then privy to that entire record to which they signed off? I have someone fairly close to me who has been hospitalized on a few occasions during manic phases of manic depression. Now he has never been suicidal that I know of, but he has pulled a number of life endangering stunts in manic states. On one such occasion he was an adult living with his parents. On a night when the temps were in the teens he went around the locked doors and climbed out a window in his pajamas and socks and managed to somehow walk several miles to a convenience store. It was amazing he didn't lose anything to frostbite. I don't recall the parents receiving instructions on how best to guard against such occurring in the future. And I'm quite sure the parents were never privy to the entire chart upon his release.

It seems somewhat similar to me that the husband would have to had signed a specific written agreement to remove all guns from the home. If that's the case then he is negligent and perhaps I would go so far as to say criminal. But in the absence of that, I think the hospital has considerable motive in covering their butts for releasing a suicidal person that they can contend all they want that what they say he assured them and I think it's always going to be iffy wrt their credibility.

Evie Happy