< VENT >Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Go back to check for replies and don't even find my post
Happened at least twice more yesterday that I caught. And since there are only two choices (edit or post) in the preview screen there's NO way I canceled the posts! < /VENT >
Whew ... now I can calm down ![]()
I'm just kinda thinking out loud here about some things. There seems to be a bit of unnecessary paranoia regarding a gun. Norwalk CT has some pretty rough areas so keeping a gun in a dresser drawer doesn't sound all that dangerous to me. We don't even know if the 3 y.o. could access that room, or whose dresser it was kept in.
Getting back to the assurances, you are saying that there is a record kept by the docs/nurses of everything they say. Were she and her husband then privy to that entire record to which they signed off? I have someone fairly close to me who has been hospitalized on a few occasions during manic phases of manic depression. Now he has never been suicidal that I know of, but he has pulled a number of life endangering stunts in manic states. On one such occasion he was an adult living with his parents. On a night when the temps were in the teens he went around the locked doors and climbed out a window in his pajamas and socks and managed to somehow walk several miles to a convenience store. It was amazing he didn't lose anything to frostbite. I don't recall the parents receiving instructions on how best to guard against such occurring in the future. And I'm quite sure the parents were never privy to the entire chart upon his release.
It seems somewhat similar to me that the husband would have to had signed a specific written agreement to remove all guns from the home. If that's the case then he is negligent and perhaps I would go so far as to say criminal. But in the absence of that, I think the hospital has considerable motive in covering their butts for releasing a suicidal person that they can contend all they want that what they say he assured them and I think it's always going to be iffy wrt their credibility.
Evie ![]()
Prosecutors say firearm in dresser drawer too accessible to troubled spouse
A resident of Norwalk, Conn., has been charged with second-degree manslaughter after his wife committed suicide using his .32-caliber handgun.
... According to the arrest warrant, 32-year-old Joan Bartush shot herself in October 2001 with one of her husband's licensed handguns.
... According to the Times, he is charged with contributing to his wife's suicide by leaving the gun ? which was in a dresser drawer ? too accessible to his wife two days after she arrived home from Silver Hill, a New Canaan psychiatric hospital. Police claim he had assured hospital personnel that his wife wouldn't have access to the gun.
Kinda sticky and scant on details. On the one hand if my spouse were suicidal I would probably want to do my best to remove "temptations". OTOH, I put temptations in quotes because if the availability of a gun is enough to send someone over the edge to suicide I don't think they are stable to begin with. Seems to me that someone who wishes to end their life may choose a more expedient method, but eventually will find whatever does the job. While perhaps some blame can be pointed at this man, I personally don't agree with this man being charged criminally for her actions in his apparent absence.
Evie

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