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Madonna Video: American Life

Jul 23, 2004 9:12AM PDT

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Re: Madonna Video: American Life
Jul 23, 2004 9:18AM PDT

Do I have to change my name?
Will it get me far?
Should I lose some weight?
Am I gonna be a star?

I tried to be a boy,
I tried to be a girl
I tried to be a mess,
I tried to be the best
I guess I did it wrong,
That's why I wrote this song

This type of modern life - Is it for me?
This type of modern life - Is it for free?
So, I went into a bar looking for sympathy
A little company - I tried to find a friend
It's more easily said it's always been the same
This type of modern life -Is not for me?
This type of modern life -Is not for free?

American life
I live the american dream
You are the best thing I've seen,
You are not just a dream

I tried to stay ahead,
I tried to stay on top
I tried to play the part,
But somehow I forgot
Just what I did it for
And why I wanted more
This type of modern life - Is it for me?
This type of modern life - Is it for free?

Do I have to change my name?
Will it get me far?
Should I lose some weight?
Am I gonna be a star?

American life
I live the american dream
You are the best thing I've seen,
You are not just a dream

I tried to be a boy,
I tried to be a girl
I tried to be a mess,
I tried to be the best
I tried to find a friend,
I tried to stay ahead
I tried to stay on top...

**** it...
Do I have to change my name?
Will it get me far?
Should I lose some weight?
Am I gonna be a star?

I'm drinking a Soy latte
I get a double shot
It goes right through my body
And you know
I'm satisfied,
I drive my mini cooper
And I'm feeling super-dooper
Yo they tell I'm a trooper
And you know I'm satisfied
I do yoga and pilates
And the room is full of hotties
So I'm checking out the bodies
And you know I'm satisfied
I'm digging on the isotopes
This metaphysic's **** is dope
And if all this can give me hope
You know I'm satisfied
I got a lawyer and a manager
An agent and a chef
Three nannies, an assistant
And a driver and a jet
A trainer and a butler
And a bodyguard or five
A gardener and a stylist
Do you think I'm satisfied?
I'd like to express my extreme point of view
I'm not Christian and I'm not a Jew
I'm just living out the American dream
And I just realized that nothing Is what it seems

Do I have to change my name
Am I gonna be a star
Do I have to change my name
Am I gonna be a star?
Do I have to change my name

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Re: Madonna Video: American Life
Jul 23, 2004 12:04PM PDT

No offense intended but any way I add this up I still get

Madonna + Respectability = Large Credibility Gap

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Re: Madonna Video: American Life
Jul 23, 2004 8:54PM PDT

No offense intended but any way I add this up I still get

Madonna + Respectability = Large Credibility Gap

Posted by: S.G. Haninger Posted on: 07/23/2004 7:04 PM
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No offense at all Ms. Haninger. Defense here remember? <I've said numerous times>

As far as your Arithmetic formula for characterization, I will honestly tell you that, that you have failed my Math Class. You made a very serious and irresponsible answer Ms. Haninger. Let me refresh your memory regarding the rules in Addition.

Required: Four properties
.........................1, commutative property
...........................2, associative property
.............................3, additive identity property
...............................4, distributive property

Functions of each properties:

Commutative property: When two numbers are added, the sum is the same regardless of the order of the addends. For example 4 + 2 = 2 + 4

Associative Property: When three or more numbers are added, the sum is the same regardless of the grouping of the addends. For example (2 + 3) + 4 = 2 + (3 + 4)

Additive Identity Property: The sum of any number and zero is the original number. For example 5 + 0 = 5.

Distributive property: The sum of two numbers times a third number is equal to the sum of each addend times the third number. For example 4 * (6 + 3) = 4*6 + 4*3

Given the rules above, your second addend provides a contradictory sum (results). Let us refer back to your arithmetic formula of characterization.

Madonna + Respectability = Large Credibility Gap

It should have been written like this.

Madonna + Respectablity = _______________
Hint: The sum would be synonymous to respectablity.

Madonna + Large Credibility Gap = _________________
Hint: The sum would be synonymous to Large Credibility Gap.
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Re: Madonna Video: /Ok, you caught me
Jul 23, 2004 9:40PM PDT

I admit to have taken some license here and should have used some other than a math metaphore Grin ..my intended point to make was that I see Madonna + Respectibility as something of a non sequitur (oops, forgot, must translate!) or something that does not connect or, literally "follow". I suppose there is also a flaw in this expression as well. Not to pick on Madonna exclusively, CL, but I could easily see someone plugging her into your posted video featuring Satan as being among us. Yes, someone actually watched the whole thing! It featured images of the KKK, Kiss and more such who have visibility in past history and the present as well. It spoke of Satan as a seducer and liar and as making an attempt to be a legitimate friend, warning mankind to be wary (at least that was my take). These things are taught in christianity as well. I will not be one to state that Madonna is an instrument of the devil but there are many who would. But, I did think it interesting that you made both posts and that the Modonna one seemed to legitimize her. I would not do so. Anyway, it was interesting viewing and has relevance if done so thoughtfully. BTW, I am a male so the MS. does not apply. Thanks and I know where to come if I need a math lesson. Grin

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Re: Madonna Video: /Ok, you caught me
Jul 24, 2004 2:47AM PDT

Mr. Haninger my answer to you is quite simple.

Madonna + Profession = Artist

That is all she is to me, a talented unique artist. Happy

As far as credibility and respectability is concerned, I would rather focus on my own shortcomings --- Changes are constantly evolving.

Happy

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Re: Madonna Video: /If I might reply
Jul 24, 2004 10:09AM PDT
Madonna + Profession = Artist

De gustibus non disputandem est!

Oops, can't say that! I mean

There is no arguing taste! Grin
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You're argueing all along?
Jul 24, 2004 11:24AM PDT
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Are you a math teatcher?
Jul 23, 2004 11:50PM PDT

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I'm amazed by your knowledge in this field...
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Re: Are you a math teatcher?
Jul 23, 2004 11:59PM PDT
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An informaiton is only good
Jul 24, 2004 1:49AM PDT

When you apply what it says.
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Nevertheless, the Professor said, "Job well done" for making the effort to supply the correct reference. Now work on it and once you grasp its concept, I assure you that you will have no difficulties accelerating to the next level.

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hahhahah now I have to work on my spellings....
Jul 24, 2004 1:52AM PDT

Typo on Information Happy
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Better admit my mistake now before its too late.
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Muaahhahhahahahahhaha. I can't afford the Professor coming down on me with this minor issue.

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Not being good at maths, can I reply in the generality? ...
Jul 24, 2004 2:11AM PDT

I guess Madonna is respectable as a mum of two and having enough of an entourage to ensure no "slip-ups" in this regard.

Whether she is or has been "respectful" is a different matter, given the wholly different money-making entourage of the past (and currently with new world tour), all of whom would no doubt be extremely respectful of her when the cheque book salaries are written.

In my book, all pop stars aim to make money, as do those trailing behind. Whatever the stars sing or video (by insruction of their marketing agents) is something that one takes or leaves. When these are adverse to normality or morality, they only ever gain ground when that is the prevailing wind of dissention. James Dean was prevalent in the early 50's apparently, i.e. over half a century ago...

Regards
Mo

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(NT) (NT) I know.. Typo!
Jul 24, 2004 1:02PM PDT
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Not a math teacher CT....
Jul 24, 2004 2:05AM PDT

Always a student of knowledge here and I like to remain that way. Happy
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One of the noble and rewarding profession is to be a Teacher. Along with this profession comes patience and tolerance which I do not always have. So I prefer to be a student wherein I have the opportunity to challenge them. Either I knock some senses out of them or they knock some senses out of me which also means I have to tolerate Albert Einsten's arithmetic formula where he said,

If A equals success, then the formula is _ A = _ X + _ Y + _ Z. _ X is work. _ Y is play. _ Z is keep your mouth shut. -- Albert Einstein
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CT....
Jul 24, 2004 4:28AM PDT