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Mac or PC

Jul 12, 2006 2:42PM PDT

Im looking at the new Macbook 1.83ghz white. My dad is steering me away from Apple because "we're living in a PC world". He says that the best choice for me is a PC laptop because Mac's arn't compatible with todays society. I'm going to use this laptop to make projects for school, make music, make photos, MSN, mostly teenager stuff but i dont want to cheap out on a laptop. I have no problem spending the money but my Dad is. Is there anyone here that can help me with my decision, am i making a wrong choice with this laptop.

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Ooops
Aug 15, 2006 10:05AM PDT

Think I clicked the wrong button by accident.

Never mind, it wasn't important anyway.


Just the normal do dah

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Re: Oops.
Aug 15, 2006 3:06PM PDT

You guys can't take the truth over here eh?

Enjoy Apple's fantasy land.

BTW, are you going to explain why you deleted my post?

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(NT) (NT) I did. My Bad
Aug 15, 2006 9:52PM PDT
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Professional Avation Simulators
Aug 14, 2006 7:10AM PDT

I bet there is a vast difference between the PC simulators that a rinky **** college uses and say what American Airlines or United Air Lines uses.
Most likely expensive mainframes with very elaborate Unix Based Simulation Programs. Can you feature someone learning to fly a 747 Jumbo or Big Airbus or Military Aircraft on a piece of junk PC made in lower slabovia?...I don't think so.

Gilbert

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Check out X-Plane
Aug 14, 2006 11:21AM PDT

A flight simulator that runs on PC, Mac, Linux and something else which is currently being accepted by the FAA as part training towards a commercial, freight, license.
Developed on a Mac and ported to the others.

www.X-Plane.com if you want to check it out.

P

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It seems you don't know much about aviation schools
Aug 14, 2006 4:46PM PDT

or aircraft simulators. You should probably get some facts in order before beginning the flow of rhetoric. Speaking with 'most likely' only serves to confirm the painfully obvious.

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Kiddpeat?
Aug 15, 2006 1:09PM PDT

?Sorry you to have you take the abuse here on the Mac Forum.
I had asked you here in the first place concerning a decision of a laptop for a college kid. PC or Mac?
My daughter just purchased a Dell lap top about two months ago.
My daughter also has a old E-Mac. She is starting a new business and all of her contacts run a PC. That is why she chose a PC.
Makes sense to me. 97.4 percent in the US run a PC.
I am one of the 3.9 percent and mostly graphics professionals that is on a Mac.

Thank you for your input Kiddpeat. Much appreciated.
Stop by again when you have the patience of Joeb.

-Kevin Smith

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The world trade center was destroyed?
Aug 15, 2006 12:42PM PDT

?with rinky-**** software for aviation simulators. Most likely PC based.
I agree with kiddpeat.
Get the facts straight before jumping on the Mac rhetoric.

We are only 2.5 percent of the computer world using a Mac at the present time.
That leaves 97.5 percent of the world running a PC platform or other OS systems.
2.5 world-wide is a piss-hole in the snow. US is 3.9 percent for a Mac.
Another Piss-Hole in the snow stat that you should pay attention to.

Gilbert, get your facts straight.
Do I want to run a PC? No thanks. Prefer the Mac.
I do know how to run a PC. My second computer in my home office.
My wife uses a PC and that is her preference.
My wife is pretty good at running a Mac also.

To each their own.

-Kevin

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Neat trick that
Aug 16, 2006 11:45AM PDT

What version of the rinky-**** software for aviation simulators did they use to hit the world trade center? I thought they used planes after going to Flight School in Florida.

I will bow to your greater judgement though.

Why do your numbers keep changing? You could be right but you never can prove it with established research.
Also you have never explained why we should all pay attention to it.

Does it matter? Will it affect my ability to sleep nights.

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Ummmmmmm, flight schools use simulators.
Aug 16, 2006 3:36PM PDT

I don't know which ones the 9/11 people trained on, or what you folks think rinky **** is, but simulators are used. It tends to save on airplane replacement and repair.

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Rinky-****
Aug 19, 2006 12:50PM PDT

Symantics. You are right.
Better than a rinkly-****. :

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Look at the needs of the industry you are going to enter
Jul 26, 2006 11:12AM PDT

I use both an Apple iBook G4 running OSX and a Dell Dimension 8400 desktop. Both machines run fine. However, if you are going into the multimedia, photography and graphic design business, the MacBook Pro is probably the route you would want to take. Apple iPhoto (which comes with all new Macs sold today) has support for RAW image files straight from digital cameras. Microsoft Office 2004 is available for both Windows XP and MacOS X. Additionally, GarageBand from Apple (which also is standard issue on all new sold Macs) handles creating music from scratch and controlling soundtrack creation for video clips and DVD video. There is little software avaible to do the same thing on Windows for less than $100 extra, and the eye-candy software from Dell, HP, Gateway and others is usually poorly implemented and unstable. I mostly use the Dell for PC video games. I do most of the "serious" multi-media, video creation, audio soundtrack creation, photography work, and Corel/Adobe publishing work on the Apple iBook. For multimedia stuff, Apple has significantly better support for that, Dell, HP, Sony, IBM, Gateway pay poor-quality lip-service support to desktop publishing, digital photography, visual-effects creation, and multimedia content creation. If the laptop is going to be your only computer, I would actually look at Apple's lowest-end offering in the "MacBook Pro" lineup instead of the MacBooks. They are a little more expensive, but they have dedicated ATI or NVidia graphics chips instead of "integrated" Intel graphics. My iBook has a dedicated ATI graphics chip, this makes iPhoto, Photoshop, iMovie, and iDVD apps run a little smoother and more stable.

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Needs of the Industry
Jul 26, 2006 11:39AM PDT

Jessemac12, Sounds like solid information from you.
Nice of you to do your homework.

-Kevin

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Go for it
Aug 13, 2006 6:53AM PDT

my dad told me the same thing your dad has, and well i ended up having to save up and buy one. mention to ur dad that i can also use windows on this mac. and like mrmacfixit said its a very secure system and u should tell ur dad that too. and mac have always had less issues than those of PC's. Also if u realy wanted to do alot of editing involving videos ur better of with the macbook Pro. With PCs u have to buy alot of software and again the security issue. Windows has ALOT of security holes. You will really enjoy ur new mac much more than a PC

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you should read this first!
Aug 14, 2006 7:50AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Not so easy to do...Link broken
Aug 14, 2006 11:39AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) registration required. my bad.
Aug 15, 2006 1:23AM PDT
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get a mac
Aug 16, 2006 7:27AM PDT

your dad is telling you that you are making a misinformed choice by chosing a macbook i got the complete oposite from my dad however i now wnat a mac as this computer im typing off of is possibly the worst imaginable and he always told me to get an apple so come xmas im geting a macbook pro.Get the apple!

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Mac v. Windows
Aug 18, 2006 2:25PM PDT

Both can run the software you'll need. Mac can run both Mac and PC software. Using the FREE "Bootcamp" you can load XP (must buy XP though).

Photoshop, runs faster on the new Intel Macs than most new PC's. All of the MS Office software (including PowerPoint) run the same on Mac or PC.

Mac offers discounts to students also, and the Apple stores offer a free iPod Nano with purchase of a new Mac.

And don't forget the FREE software you get with each Mac purchase. iPhoto, iWeb, iChat, iTunes, GarageBand, iMovie and iDVD. Try buying software that run seemlessly together like those do! On the PC you can't, and even if you stitch together multi programs that might do some of those things they won't work with each other. I volunteer at our local hospice to create DVD's of our patients lives (a way for them to leave memories to their families). And I use ONLY those programs. I can get images from iPhoto, music from iTunes or GarageBand all within iMovie. Then I burn DVD's (including a menu, chapters, etc.) with iDVD. Awesome!

Buy the Mac you won't regret it.