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Looking forward to 2008

As I see it, in election year 2008 we'll have two fresh choices. If Bush wins this year he is inelligible and if Kerry wins he looks like a one term wonder to me. Lets hope the parties can find better choices. JMO. I have to vote because I need to have a voice but I'm really tired of voting the lesser of two evils.

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Re: Looking forward to 2008

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Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton were both at some dinner recently, and Rudy joked that they'd both be voting for Bush this year.

I wonder though -- if Bush loses, do you think he'll declare that God only wanted him to serve one term?

Wink

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(NT) (NT) Like father, like son

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Course not...

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He may be a Christian, but he isnt a Christian nut. Happy

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Well, actually...

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that possibility exists only if Bush wins. It is traditional protocol for the incumbent party to give the right of first refusal to the sitting president, or if s/he is in the second term, to the sitting vice president. If Bush wins now, in 2008 we'll likely see Cheney vs. ??? Democrat unless Cheney takes himself out. If Kerry wins now, we'll inevitably see Kerry trying in 2008 for a second term (regardless of his performance in the 1st term) vs. ??? Republican. Taking that thought to it's theoretic next step, if Kerry somehow gets that second term, in 2012 it would be Edwards vs. ??? Republican followed in 2016 by Edwards 2nd term vs. ??? Republican.

In a way, this is why Hillary must vote for Bush... it's the only way she'll get an opportunity to run for President for the next quarter century (short of upsetting standard political protocols, or others already in line volunteering to get out of her way, or her accepting 8 years of neglect as Edwards' VP until she can finally have her turn in 2020...).

dw

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No way will Cheney run in '08 no matter who wins this year. His health is just too much of an issue. It's one thing for him to be VP but I just can't see it. Never mind the Halliburton stuff....

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personally, I agree with you, Josh...

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but the way things work, that is for Cheney to initiate himself. If he were bonehead enough to insist he was tough, no problem, etc., etc., then the party would nominate him purely out of protocol and political courtesy. In my view, this is one of the (many) shortcomings of our process. We don't have an easy means by which a party (either party) can gently set aside a prior mistake. The only way out is to blindly serve up the mistake again and leave it to the people to vote with their feet. Whatever else one might say about LBJ, give him credit for the political wisdom to step aside from the second dance.

dw

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I know what you mean. Bush I regretted picking Dan Quayle almost immediately but he was afraid that dropping him for the run for a 2nd term might make people think he believed he'd made a mistake initially, which of course he did, and so on. If he hadn't felt so pressured by all the politics and what would people think, he might have done better than he did. Not saying he'd have won, but who knows. I'm sure at least a few people voted for Clinton because the thought of a Quayle presidency terrified them.

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I disagree

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I dont think Quayle was a factor at all. I think it was all in the way they perceived the state of the economy. Traditionally they vote their pocketbooks, whether its fair to the candidates or not.

Of course in 2004, national security will also be an issue.

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I know Quayle wasn't a factor for me; I wasn't about to vote for Bush anyway. He sure couldn't have helped though.

National security and the economy should be the two main issues this year.

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Hi, ****.

Cheney wouldn't be given a pass -- someone would run against him. And now that he's said he disagrees with bush on the Gay Marriage Amendment, the conservative base would have doubts...

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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True, Dave, he is making a few ripples that might bother the conservatives, but 4 years from now (assuming for the sake of discussion that Bush wins now...) that will be forgotten. The only thing that will take Cheney out of the line of succession to the next nomination would be his own decision to step aside. There will be some token primary electioneering for purposes of the show, but the GOP headquarters will be moving towards a Cheney candidacy if he is headstrong enough to not avail himself of the health issues as a graceful way to bow out.

dw

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Re: Looking forward to 2008

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I'm still waiting for some sort of legislative action allowing foreign-born US citizens to run for President...AHHHHNOLD!!!!

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Hi, DR.

Ahnold, being pro-life and anti-gay marriage amendment, wouldn't stand a chance. The only way h managed to win Ca was the "open" nature of the election, as he wouldn't even have won the primary. Meanwhile, if that amendment were passed, it would open the door for Michigan Governor Jennifer (?) Granholm.

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I love it when people pick one or two issues and say a person won't stand a chance...when the most of America is usually moderate and has a tendency to weigh the overall candidate. That's one thing both parties have forgotten in their clamoring for special interest voting blocs.
As a Republican candidate he'd wipe the floor with whoever he went against. Besides star power...which does help significantly, he's personable, is able to project himself very well through the media, is known to be many a person's hero or ideal (both republican and democrat), would be coming from a large Democratic state and would probably be able to win it, is married to a Kennedy, and is known to be a capable power player who would be able to handle himself well in dealings with other countries.
A significant advantage is given to the candidate who the people feel closer to or more familiar with, this helped FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush 2...and assuming he doesn't make a major faux pas, he'd be able to decisively win.

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He might win a general election, but he'd never get the nomination. The primary voters are even more extreme in their view than republicans in general.

Dan

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I can't resist wagging back

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Patrick you concluded with "I'm really tired of voting the lesser of two evils."

Yeah, but that is far nobler than voting for the eviler of two lessers.

(rain of stones fall upon netsky's head---deserved, ha ha!)

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