Sounds like the facts are irrelevant to the desired conclusion.
in another lie.
JIM LEHRER and JOHN O'NEILL with Boston Globe columnist Tom Oliphant.
JOHN O'NEILL: Well, if it were simply a matter of him lying 35 years ago, I guess you could argue one way or the other.
But the problem he's was lying as recently as the Democratic Convention. Jim, there was... the Democratic Convention closed with an episode... a depiction of an episode entitled "No Man Left Behind."
This was an episode in which Kerry claimed that five swift boats on March the 13th had a mine go off; they fled and John Kerry came back and rescued a man named Rassmann.
What actually happened on that day is that a mine went off, a boat, PCF-3, was disabled. All boats went to the aid of PCF-3 with one exception, John Kerry. He left the area and returned later and did, in fact, pick up Rassmann.
There was no fire outside the original mine: You can imagine what the people feel like on those swift boats who have come forward with affidavits when they were depicted as fleeing and then having John Kerry come back and, in fact, they stayed and he left.
JOHN O'NEILL: Let me respond. The first piece in the "No Man Left Behind" story, Kerry's first claim is he was wounded that day by shrapnel in his bottom... the cause of him leaving Vietnam.
His problem is on page 313 and page 317 of his own book, he attributes exactly the same wound to his own grenade.
With respect to the question of whether the five boats fled and came back, the first problem for Mr. Oliphant is the Kerry campaign, I understand, has now admitted that only Kerry left and the remaining four boats stopped. When considering evidence, I guess the first thing...
JIM LEHRER: He did come back and help in the rescue.
JOHN O'NEILL: He did come back after four or five minutes.
JIM LEHRER: Whatever the facts. The rescue itself is not in dispute, is it?