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Lieberman drops out

Feb 3, 2004 10:26AM PST

And he's doing it right now with class, nobody can deny that. It's too bad because he was the best of the bad lot that the Dems offered. Also too bad that he damaged himself when running with Gore last time. I think that cost him.

This guy has to be dropping out soon, but I can't say anything about "with class" judging from remarks by the son here:

http://news.myway.com/politics/article/id/382984|politics|02-03-2004::15:26|reuters.html

I was hoping so much that Dean would win the nomination......... EEEEYEEEAAAAAAA!

DE

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Being the nearest thing to a centrist seen in a while, he never had a chance
Feb 3, 2004 11:18AM PST

No one that is anything near the middle between the two extremes has had a chance in either party for years.

You can't win if you're in the middle. You can't win if you can't distance yourself as much as possible from your opponent after you hurl vindictive insults and derogatory descriptions at him.

Standard tactics now for all candidates, both parties. Go a bit further left/right than your opponent does right/left for general election.

For primaries go as far out as you can without alienating the rest.

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Having values didn't help him with Dems either. Remember, the MTV generation is voting now.(nt)
Feb 3, 2004 11:24AM PST

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(NT) Too bad, he was the best man of the lot.
Feb 3, 2004 11:21AM PST

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Re: Lieberman drops out
Feb 3, 2004 12:42PM PST

Hi, DavE.

Jay Leno says that for Dean, it's really all over but the shouting Happy And if you stop talking about the Dems as a bad lot, I won't say the worst lot around is the Administration...

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Re: the worst lot
Feb 3, 2004 1:51PM PST

Hmmm, isn't that just about all within the Washington DC beltline?

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Dean is nosediving faster than the Spice Girls after their second album
Feb 3, 2004 11:24PM PST

Anyone heard from Kucinich lately? Is he still alive? He really ought to be the next one to hang it up; Clark has a week or two left, tops. Sharpton may stick it out until the convention. He's not trying to win the nomination; he just wants influence in defining the platform.

It will be a Kerry/Edwards ticket.

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Re: Dean is nosediving faster than the Spice Girls after their second album
Feb 4, 2004 3:47AM PST

Hi, Josh.

Actually, I hope the race does go on a bit longer -- it helps get the anti-Bush message out there, where it seems finally to be taking some root with the public. Of course, NOW Bush wants to prosecute the war in afganistan/Pakistan more, because he realizes his best chance is to catch bin Laden. Of course, iut doesn't help Bush's credibility that his good buddy is now implicated in nuclear proliferation: Musharraf Named in Nuclear Probe; Senior Pakistani Army Officers Were Aware of Technology Transfers, Scientist Says.

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Re:Re: Dean is nosediving faster than the Spice Girls after their second album
Feb 4, 2004 5:14AM PST

Hi Dave:

In fairness to Bush, I'd say the alliance with Musharraf was one more of necessity than "buddy"-ness. Cooperation from the Pakistani government was essential to our efforts to find bin Laden and those helping him. If Musharraf had not been willing to cooperate, we might have found ourselves having to get tough with a country that has nuclear weapons.

I sincerely hope that the covert search for bin Laden has been ongoing and isn't just now being stepped up. I'd guess (hope) that there is a lot of stuff we don't hear about.

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Re:Re: Lieberman drops out
Feb 6, 2004 3:24PM PST

> And if you stop talking about the Dems as a bad lot, I won't say the worst lot around is the Administration...

Oh I doubt that Dave. Besides, I'm counting on all those relentless slams because they work to our benefit, so keep 'em coming!

DE

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Re:Lieberman drops out
Feb 4, 2004 12:40PM PST

Hi DE,

Can't say I'm sad to see him go as I feel he abandoned my state and sold out all he believed in to run with Gore. But at the core he is a good man IMO. Very pathetic what Gore did to him -- acting like he was gonna run delaying Lieberman's ability to raise funds, etc. then endorsing Dean. I just hope that he will take a cue from a poll in CT that came out a few days befor ethis last round of primaries. Kerry was trouncing him in CT if our primary had been held that day. Time to go back to being our senator Joe!

Evie Happy

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Don't blame Lieberman just because...
Feb 4, 2004 1:00PM PST

...Gore is a jerk, as he proves over and over again.

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Re:Don't blame Lieberman just because...
Feb 6, 2004 9:00PM PST

I don't blame him because Gore is a jerk. I do blame him for essentially abandoning the state he serves and putting aside all his convictions for whatever reason to be Gore's running mate. It was pretty obvious the reasons he was selected -- his religion (for Florida voters) and stance on the various Clinton morality issues. It's sad that he fell for that and therefore continued with Presidential ambitions past his 2000 defeat. There's not enough Joementum in the country for him to ever register more than a blip on a radar screen. I hope the Republicans can put someone good up against him come '06, but I don't think that will be the case given Roland's current problems Sad