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LG TV Recording to HDD restrictions

After having two identical LG TVs for a while, I started to use the function for recording to HDD.

Turns out, a recording will only play back on the actual TV it was recorded on.

I therefore cannot use the other TV to play a recording if I need to for various reasons.

I got two identical TVs for consistency, still this kind of nonsense happens.

It also of course means that in future, if a new TV is purchased, recordings will not work on that either.

LG explained that this is for copyright reasons.

Even if this is correct it should be down to me to decide on that.

Other devices, admittedly self contained recording devices such as DVRs can be played back on different TVs.

DVD recorders, of course would when I used them create a recording on a disc which will play in another player.

Unbelievable.

Thanks LG, up yours.

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This is not up to LG.

In reply to: LG TV Recording to HDD restrictions

That's a legal issue that varies from country to country. It's a shame that such recording has become so restrictive but be sure to take it up with your country's legal system.

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It is up to LG

In reply to: This is not up to LG.

Thanks but it is down to LG.
If they didn't leave it down to the customer to decide, in some countries we wouldn't be able to ever record anything.

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The customer would have to help change the laws.

In reply to: It is up to LG

In the USA it's rare to find a HDTV with DVR. It was banned for years. If a company dared to break the law they couldn't do business in that country.

I can't quite understand your position. Are you writing the company makes the law? Here it's used to be something like government by the people, but that was years ago.

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No they wouldn't

In reply to: The customer would have to help change the laws.

When I mentioned DVRs, I described DVRs as self contained units which play recordings on other TVs.
Hence recordings can be made and played back on other TVs, just like with DVD recorders.
Why stop it with HDD via USB
Recording TV at all is often illegal in some ways, so why adhere to it not being allowed out through USB to HDD.
It should be down to the customer to decide not LG.
If companies made sure their products could not break any supposed laws, we wouldn't be able to do anything in any area of life.
Also, LG do not make it clear that such restrictions apply when recording.
No I'm not saying the company make the law - if it exists in a way which LG seem to be using it to justify this ridiculous situation, they should ignore it.

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So let's talk about DVRs?

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You can find folk explode over DVRs that don't allow you to take the drive to another DVR when the electronics fail.

Let's cover this for the USA? "ANY" HD recording system appears to have restrictions like this. If they don't they are a device you won't find at say Best Buy.

Samsung and other makers do not top line (highlight) the restriction but don't hide this fact either.

Ever since the VCR and the legal battles came out decades ago you've seen battles going on to lock down recording. For HD it began with closing "the analog hole" which is AKA "component video." And HDTV makers wanted to offer replay and more so the compromise was to lock the video to the TV.

Post was last edited on September 16, 2018 9:09 AM PDT

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Are you from LG ?

In reply to: So let's talk about DVRs?

You sound as if you might represent LG in some way ?

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No but I have worked in the DVR design world

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So this is an area I know something about.

Any HD video recorder gets a lot of attention from the movie industry. They lobbied against recording long ago, lost and won as VHS then DVD sales took off. Today the laws are very restrictive so what a recorder can do and such is well, not what you will be happy with. I see we covered moves from recorder to recorder or player or player.

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(NT) Thanks for the explanations

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This is NOT a "legal issue".

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This is NOT a "legal issue".
Is only a issue by LG. Or Sony or other paranoid brands.

"Enigma 2" (on set top boxes) is not illegal, but they record without encryption in ".ts".
The same with tv cards (PCI, PCIe, USB...) for PC.

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I can only guess

In reply to: This is NOT a "legal issue".

You haven't dug into this yet. There are recorders but time and time again the person asks to have the recording play outside the recorder.

Please start a new topic if you must but here, in the USA there are legal issues.

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Please show me the legal issue in the USA (meant seriously)

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Please show me the legal issue in the USA (meant seriously).
I think you can buy recorders without his own encryption in the USA.

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If there were no issues.

In reply to: Please show me the legal issue in the USA (meant seriously)

You would find them in the stores. You seem primed for a debate. Let's use what's on the market to clear this up.

Please supply models of the HD DVRs that don't encrypt and lock content to the recorder.

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If we leave USA.

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problem tv

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I just purchased a LG tv and I'm sitting with the same damn problem. This is some ********!!! I'm definitely returning the tv.

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If you find a TV that allows sharing of the DVR content.

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Be sure to come back and tell us.

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No Luck

In reply to: If you find a TV that allows sharing of the DVR content.

I take it that you didn't find a TV that allows sharing of the DVR content then.

Can't say I'm surprised, for the reasons people gave above.

Someone said they can record on a DVR and then swap TVs- the point here is that the recording is locked to one recording device, to prevent that recording being digitally shared.

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LG should correct this.

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i got the same problem, 65"TV FAILD, the new TV could not play the USB content recorded on last TV. it's unacceptable.

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Most TVs can't play all content.

In reply to: LG should correct this.

Only some video encodings are supported. To get all what you play on your PC, the TV would need a PC inside and that's costly.

So encode to what your TV plays or vote with your wallet.

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smart tv / computer

In reply to: Most TVs can't play all content.

Hhmmm . actually your smart tv is already a computer, but with certain features locked down. Plus you can buy tablet pc's for as little as £32 so how is that expensive ?

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It would take a very long post to explain the HDTV industry.

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They are in a very cost conscious market so that 32 bucks multiplies out as it goes through the channels and so far, TV makers do not want to lose control of what apps can be installed on a Smart TV. Until some maker breaks from the pack, you will continue to see rather dumb "smart TVs."

If you feel this way about 32 dollars should cover it, vote with your wallet next time. If the TV doesn't perform, don't buy it.

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LG TV (and others) Recording restrictions

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My Blaupunkt TV died a few days ago. This unit recorded without encryption and the files could be played back on any other type of machine. To replace it I bought a Technika 32 inch TV with HD. That unit DOES allow copying of video files. However, on setting up the TV, I noticed it had a few pixels missing. Also there was "flare" at the sides of the screen. Although it recorded to my satisfaction, I returned it and swapped it for a Toshiba. Superb picture and it can record video and radio. Unfortunately, the files ARE encrypted. Pulling my hair out, I decide to check a Bush TV from Argos. It doesn't encrypt video files! So, how on Earth can manufacturers of certain males of TVs claim they don't allow copying, when some other makes of TV, do allow it? Sounds like another big con from Mr Corporate Greed.

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Question

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So there is no way to record on my LG TV 2017 Model?

From,
Raphael Len

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Unsure why this question is here.

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This discussion is from 2016 so adding a question about the 2017 should be in a new discussion along with a link to the product you have questions about. Burying a new incomplete question makes getting answers hard. Make it easy. Make your own post with the needed details.

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