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Let's have a Speakeasy Presidential Poll. I vote Bush.

Apr 29, 2004 1:03PM PDT

If the election was held today, for whom would each participant vote to elect as President. Between Kerry and Bush, I have to vote Bush. If the Democrats got smart and Kerry decided he had a better chance remaining a senator, then things might change. Personally I think the Democrats lost their best chance with Edwards. I don't think having Edwards as Kerry's running mate however will do enough to help Kerry, but it would some. What effect would Cheney deciding to step aside and have someone else be the VP candidate along with Bush have on the race?

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Re: Let's have a Speakeasy Presidential Poll. I vote Bush.
Apr 29, 2004 1:13PM PDT

Hi, James.

Obviously I favor Kerry, though ironically I agree with you about Edwards. If Bush replaced Cheney, the impact would depend entirely on who the new candidate is. If it's someone perceived as to the right of Bush, it would hurt him for sure; Ashcroft would be his worst possible selection, IMCO. His smartest possible selection would be Senator Snow of Maine, who's both female and a moderate.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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Olympia Snow?
Apr 30, 2004 3:35AM PDT

Give me a break!

LOL, Condolleeza Rice might be a good choice. Heck, female and black to boot! Oh I know, I know, those who would be swayed by her gender or race don't consider her to be the "right type" of either because she is conservative but ...

I don't think Bush will replace Cheney during the election. But my thoughts are that about half way through his second term he will pick someone who will eventually run for President in 2012.

Evie Happy

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AFBBB ! nt
Apr 29, 2004 1:28PM PDT

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Re Undecided
Apr 29, 2004 10:47PM PDT

I have a leaning but there is much more I need to know and I am observing the actions of both men on each ticket. Nader is not a viable candidate in my opinion.

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Re:Let's have a Speakeasy Presidential Poll. I vote Bush.
Apr 29, 2004 11:44PM PDT

Yes--well, I agree with you on both counts. Edwards would have been formidable competition for GWB, and Kerry does NOT look so good as an opponent. Also, if I can go by the negative stuff I've seen about Kerry on the Internet, GWB should win by a landslide. I really do not know anybody who likes Kerry--although that may be because of the circles I hang around in.

I am not one to vote for a particular individual because of his/her affiliation with a particular party. At the moment GWB seems to be the only candidate. I agree that the Democrats blew it by going for Kerry over Edwards.

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Agreed for all of the same reasons. I vote Bush NT
Apr 30, 2004 1:44AM PDT
Happy
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Hi Roger, from Roger
May 2, 2004 8:12AM PDT

Don't think I've seen you around Speakeasy before so welcome.

Chuckling, I couldn't help but notice your signature I guess, was a bit startled at first glance at post since I didn't recall posting it. Wink

Anyway, if new welcome aboard. If just missed you before, welcome anyway.

RogerNC

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It's too early for me
Apr 30, 2004 1:18AM PDT

The conventions and "official" campaigns/debates haven't even started yet. Also, the Democrat VP running mate hasn't been named.

Last time I would have gone for either John McCain or Colin Powell.

I agree that Edwards would have been the best choice .

I don't care for Cheney. (Yes- I do wish him well health-wise.)

I'm old enough to clearly recall the Nixon/Kennedy debates. Nixon was considered a shoo-in before them.

The senior Bush was considered a shoo-in (until his own party sabotaged him big time).

So, there are no guarantees until the votes are counted.

I predict another razor thin margin this time.

What I am starting to resent is the implication that anybody not voting GOP has no values, patriotism, etc., and it turns me off.

I haven't found the ads mean-spirited, but so much of the 'net stuff is.

Too much time between now and November for me to decide.

Angeline
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

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Sure, I'll vote for Bush too.....
Apr 30, 2004 1:53AM PDT

...but only under the following conditions:

Bin Laden, Mullah Omar and Al Zawahiri are all caught or killed AND the economy starts booming AND the boom can be traced directly to his tax cuts AND the situation in Iraq improves markedly AND John Kerry is caught in a motel room with a sheep.

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Would you compromise and...
Apr 30, 2004 2:15AM PDT

...just have Kerry caught kissing Hillary instead?

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(NT) Nope, it's gotta be a farm animal
Apr 30, 2004 2:29AM PDT
Wink
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I live in Indiana. I'll provide the sheep.
Apr 30, 2004 5:39AM PDT

Who knows; if we can represent the ovine as having lots of money, then Teresa may have real competition...Wink

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Can you provide "57 varieties" plus one? {nt}
Apr 30, 2004 1:01PM PDT

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I am really not qualified to vote (British) but if American (Bush) hands down NT
May 1, 2004 3:42AM PDT

NT

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A few brave voters, others out to lunch. Makes me wonder...
May 1, 2004 11:20AM PDT

...if they are that way on Election Day too. However, looking at the truly committed the thread seems currently to be a draw, maybe favoring Bush a bit, as of this post.

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Re:A few brave voters, others out to lunch. Makes me wonder...
May 2, 2004 4:03AM PDT

What makes you think "others are out to lunch" James, with the election day over 6 months away.Happy

Stop wondering, we'll all be at the polls and Vote. Right now with all Blab, Blab on TV and elsewhere from both sides, I wonder too. I think Bush is winning though.

However, with all the problems facing our country today, it would be nice if they would stop telling us what we already know. Tell us in detail how they will attempt to solve the problems. Solutions is what I want to hear.

George

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Sometimes I feel as Mercutio did
May 1, 2004 10:18PM PDT

A pox on both your houses, or maybe a bit more like what the writer here means by the same phrase. (Note, not a favorite page, just a search result for the phrase that is rather appropriate here.)

I don't mind admitting today I'd vote for Bush.

If the last election had been Leiberman and Gore instead of vice versa, I'd have been really on a tossup.

The biggest down for me is Cheney being #2, as far as the Republican ticket then and now. Then the biggest down for the Democrats was Gore being #1.

I'd pick Bush over Kerry at current point. If it was Kerry and Cheney I'd be much less certain.

What scares the bejeesus out of me is the possibililty that in 2008 it will Cheney vs Hillary. Then even I may vote for Nader.

You know, if the two major parties continue to try to polarize the populace, it may come to the point that someone with Ross Peroit's money but a bit better political sense could make a real run for the roses. At least enough so that no candidate would have a majority of electoral votes. Wouldn't that be a fun situation?

Hmmm, not sure, does the constitution require a majority or just a plurality of the electoral votes? I wonder how many states don't have laws actually binding the electors to vote as the populace did? I know there use to be some that didn't. Wouldn't be be a telling thing if a group of electors got together at the meeting of the electorial college and did everything they could to keep either major party candidate from winning?

RogerNC

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Re:Sometimes I feel as Mercutio did
May 1, 2004 11:16PM PDT

Hi Roger,

I don't think you'll have to worry about Cheney running for Prez in '08. His health issue has been enough of a dogging point for him as veep, and even among Republicans I don't think he is a favorable candidate. A far more likely scenario is that Bush will replace him about half way through his second term with the "front runner" candidate to give that person a running start against Hillary. I'm hoping Rudy dethrones her in 2006 and throws a wrench into her plans Devil

Evie Happy

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Now THAT would be interesting next time.
May 2, 2004 10:55AM PDT

Juliani versus H. Clinton. Roger might get that strong 3rd party vote he was looking for too.

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I think Guliani is too liberal ...
May 2, 2004 11:08AM PDT

... on social issues to make the national GOP ticket for Prez. But he has a good chance of unseating her in the Senate in '06 ... at the very least he would put a dent in her war-chest with only 2 years to recoup!

Evie Happy

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Whoa up, James
May 2, 2004 3:03PM PDT

Although it probably won't make a difference to those far too
few voters who actually show up at the polls in
November, this is too early to 'count the chickens'.

Boston hasn't happened yet, and the 'eggs haven't hatched'.

That circus, activities inside and outside, will probably
carry more influence than all the speeches leading up to it.

Don't give up on the American public just yet. From my
travels I sense that more and more are growing weary and
irritated with accusations, allegations and finger pointing.

Emotions carry a lot of weight.