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"legal" Blackmail?????

by TONI H / November 3, 2009 7:16 PM PST

Play nice with the unions and change your eductional laws to what you are told or you don't even get consideration for educational funds????

Reform and transformation of our country has completely gotten out of hand and the speed that it's happening is scarier than anything I've seen during my whole life.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_schools


TONI H

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WHO would want this?
by JP Bill / November 3, 2009 8:04 PM PST
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Obama wants states to pursue ? tougher academic standards, better ways to recruit and keep effective teachers, a method of tracking student performance and a plan of action to turn around failing schools.

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The way I see it
by TONI H / November 3, 2009 8:14 PM PST
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Since this blackmail money will only go to select states, the rest are being forced to participate for a chance to win that lottery. Charter schools are high on Obama's priority list and suspect that only states that put their focus on creating them or building up existing ones will actually see any of those funds. That will leave an awful lot of public schools sitting on the sidelines like the kid with his nose pressed against a window watching others having a good time at a party that he didn't get invited to.

TONI H

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(NT) RE: blackmail money?........Carrot/Stick?
by JP Bill / November 3, 2009 10:54 PM PST
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Here's hoping my state does! No $$$ for past mandate.
by Angeline Booher / November 3, 2009 10:51 PM PST
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It's been hard for charter schools to start due to union opposition. But it's been even harder to watch the schools fail in their mission.

And hard for my state to pay for government education wants/mandates without any financial help.


It is up to each individual state to decide whether or not they want to participate, Some of the wealthy areas in different states might not feel it is necessary, and that's fine. But those that chose to accept it should not be maligned

With this the states actually have had a chance to get some money to pay for what an administration wanted, or even mandated..

Angeline
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The problem is
by TONI H / November 3, 2009 10:59 PM PST

that even if states DO try to meet the mandates, that isn't a guarantee that those states will get the 'lottery' since only a handful will receive funds. It's a national 'mandate' but only a few will benefit from it. If ALL of the states were able to get funding if they met the mandated agenda, I don't know how much hollering in protest I would be doing, but the way it stands right now, I'm not happy with 'selective' funding since the NEA would be the decision maker and not 'sharing the wealth' for all of the states.

TONI H

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My state has a low ranking
by Angeline Booher / November 3, 2009 10:40 PM PST
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..... and the low scores are not limited to rural areas as my local school district has nothing to brag about. More money per se has not been the answer as "ranking" teachers" as to performance has been a no-no and fought by the teacher unions.

There are many in the teachers unions who are "in the trenches' and more than willing to join in the effort

Charter school have been a recent addition to my city, and so far have been successful. (Just my opinion, but these schools have offered an alternative choice for students and parents who want to benefit from the higher expectations.)

A lot of the better local teachers fled to the private schools as it became more impossible for them to teach. The charter schools and the better public ones offer students and their families a choice tuition-free, The obligation then exists that they continue to teach.

Angeline
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IMHO. its all about the ducets
by Willy / November 3, 2009 11:13 PM PST

Charter schools may work because they offer smaller classes and dedicated teachers and students that seem to want to learn. BUT, they also suck money from school districts. Plus, some of the earlier charters seem to lack any control on spending and appear to get started solely on public funds. Some fail too and where are those students? Yeah, public school districts I just never felt comfortable and they have to take "everybody" and that means the less willing students that cause far too many problems. Before charters, I recall some school districts offering "magnet schools" that were under the public school system. <---- I wonder how they fared?

If someone points out, the "no student left behind" program, let's remember all to often the test was taught rather teaching the std. curriculum so scores were high thus really artificial. -----Willy

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"Magnet" schools very successful here.
by Angeline Booher / November 4, 2009 12:45 AM PST

I reckon they also "suck money" from the public schools as a whole. But, IMO, their success lies in the dedicated teachers and students. I can leave out the parents who have to find a way to get them to school (no school buses available for our magnets.)

It appears we finally got a Director who is dedicated to improving all. In doing so, he led a rezoning school districts to better utilize facilities and resources. But there is a "stop order" suit brought by one set of parents before the local federal court claiming it is an effort to re-segregate our schools. Decision is under advisement.

IMO, there is always somebody who resists change and will sue. I think in the past we have been "held hostage" to that threat, and been afrais to look at different approaches to problem solving. "No child left behind" didn't help, and did "suck money" from the budget without results.

Angeline
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