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Lead free solder issue -tin whiskers

Feb 24, 2014 3:50AM PST

Wonky electronics to include PCs with unknown causes
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Since lead was become the bad metal in solder it is no longer used. The lead free movement has allowed the use of tin-based solder. Over time a problem developed or became known, tin whiskers. The tin whiskers develop and can cause a short as they grow as if from no where extended from lead free solder and thus reach to other electronic contacts or near by solder lands. This basically is a "short" causing grief either in worrisome flaky operations or shutdowns as in it's broke. The fix is only replacing the device or component or module or possible resoldering. For PC users this maybe noted more in RAM modules or sockets, which by themselves meet the criteria of possible mishap.

http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/print/volume-16/issue-10/news/trends/lead-free-solder-a-train-wreck-in-the-making.html

http://www.ecnmag.com/articles/2011/12/was-lead-free-solder-worth-effort

http://www.smta.org/chapters/files/smta-gdl_Lead-free_Handsoldering.Final.4.19.06.pdf

The above links provide info on the topic, but google for more. You'll find this is a leading industry issue. It includes all areas of electronics, that maybe your PC, but also our defense industry and even your washing machine.

tada -----Willy Happy

Repost suggested if applicable maybe into other forum sticky. thanks

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While I'm aware of that, my peeve is DUCTILITY.
Feb 24, 2014 4:03AM PST
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One or the other
Feb 24, 2014 4:15AM PST

I assume by mere fact the process applies to anything being currently made will have a level of both problems. In my last link it was noted that when switched over from old to new, problem arose as the learning curve was encountered. As you stated, it does happen and i haven't come across so many weird problems for the sake of me. I don't fall back to resoldering because of the close contacts may actually solder more than the problem area with a typical soldering iron. I use a stiff brush now and alcohol to straighten so-called whiskers or electronic wipe towelettes. It seems to help and far easier than resoldering. But that's me and my old eyes... -----Willy Happy

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Google up the dv6000 recall
Feb 24, 2014 4:30AM PST
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Ever try to sweat solder copper pipe with it?
Feb 24, 2014 5:21AM PST

It's a similar process but needs more heat and isn't very forgiving. Some say switch to MAPP gas. I still have an adequate supply of the evil type to last a few more small projects.

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In the case of water and distilleries.
Feb 24, 2014 7:39AM PST

Pb is nothing I'll let near such systems.

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If you make a good joint and don't flow rivers of solder
Feb 24, 2014 8:46AM PST

to the inside, only minimal contact with water is made. Unless the water has reactive contaminants, no lead salts will be produced. It's my guess that the potentially worst practice was using the cold water pipe as an earth ground for one's home. If he plumbing carried much current, there can be damage to the solder joints. I think the jury is still out on PVC and glues used. We tend to find out about the ill effects of some things many decades later.

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Other connections do
Feb 24, 2014 11:50AM PST

i saw on "Dirty Jobs" DVD the process where they cleaned a micro-brewery and distillery. They braze, union or flare connect all those fittings. BTW, the custom you're allowed to drink on the job as a benefit but over time, you wean yourself from over-indulgence. Wink ------Willy Shocked

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I just did this...
Feb 24, 2014 11:46AM PST

Due to the weather we had a broken copper pipe. I had to play with far longer than normal. I "pre-tin" the connections or sweats and rag wipe it down to remove excess. Then flux the heck out of it. It works and believe me you don't want any water near-by because of its own removal but this cold metal takes forever to heat anyways. My aching back is testament to the labor I had to do in awkward place. -----Willy Happy