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Im on the fence right now between a new LCD or a new DLP set. Being used primarily for gaming and DVD's, I'd like to hear from those of you who have an opinion and any advice.
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Im on the fence right now between a new LCD or a new DLP set. Being used primarily for gaming and DVD's, I'd like to hear from those of you who have an opinion and any advice.
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Probably the latest generation DLP would be my choice but I hate them both. Off axis viewing is awful and the quality of the picture changes dramatically whether you're sitting or standing.
Oh, and the bulbs have to be changed all the time too.
the new Sony KDS-R60XBR1. Awesome. Kills DLP. I sell them all and am able to watch them all all day long. The new Sony out performs even plasmas. Their new LCoS engine is the best. On HD or digital input there is no pixelaztion, mosquito noise, no "screen door" effect, no rainbow. You have to see it to believe it.
One day last week a rep for TI (they make the DLP engine) was at my store making a list of the TVs I sell using their DLP engine. I asked him if he'd seen the new Sony. He looked at me, said "yes", and turned and walked off.
I've seen the Sony and I agree...it's stunning. But since this new technology is geared for larger TVs, any suggestion for a smaller TV (for bedroom), like a 20" or so, that doesn't have the pixelization and pixel blur? Everythng I've seen is 1024X768 in smaller TVs, and this is fine, but they all have pixel issues that to me, make them unwatchable. It doesn't matter if it's LCD, Plasma or DLP. They all seem to exhibit the same problem. All I want for Christmas is a small flat-screen with a decent image.
The new HD TVs handle the HD content quite well. Where almost all of them have trouble is the upconverting process. SD broadcasting is sent at 480 lines. The HD TVs upconvert that to at least 720 and some to 1080. This process is what causes the mosquito noise and pixelazation.
Until all broadcasters send at least 720 it's something we are all going to have to live with.
I just bought two Westinghouse 32" LCDs. Excellent contrast and very little "noise". And the price is usually right.
http://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-15-2-32-lcd-tv.aspx
unless your Bedroom is tiny, Don't be afraid to go the Route of the Flat Panel Sharp 37inch--this is the best picture I have seen, hands down, a little pricey, but if you shop around you cansteal one...
also, the "new" model has the speakers on the bottom, making it appear much smaller than the 5u. (the 7u is the bottom speaker model)
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Just got back from Magnolia. Noticably better off angle viewing on the LCD's like Sharp, Panasonic compared to the DLP's. I have a 46 in Samsung DLP that I'm watching now and it's great close to head on. I got the DLP over plasma, mainly for price. Now, I think I'd go with LCD for under 40 inches. Check for fast response time on LCD; should be around 10 msec or less to avoid blurring. Panasonic color looked better than Sharp--especially white and black; the
Sharp was darker, but detail got lost, like the side of a face away from the light--it was very noticable. Liked the Panasonic and Sharp swivel bases, too.
I didn't know you sell TVs. I'm going to be in the market for an HDTV in the next month or two and I've been hearing about that Sony. Really blows plasma out of the water, huh? Wow.
Are you aware of any upcoming price reductions on that set? It's currently $4,995.
You have to see it to believe it.
We have the 60 at $4,999.99 and the 50 at $3,999.99. Really an awesome picture. We just had a 10% off sale on all electronics, it ended Sunday.
Quick story:
Last week a rep from TI was in the store making a list of all our rear projection TVs that use his DLP engine. Much hype on that technology. I asked him if he'd seen the new Sony LCoS TV. He looked at me, said yes, and walked off.
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You are like me. I am just waiting for the next price drop or sale to get this Sony. Best Buy in OKC had it for 4500.00 thru last Saturday. Also had no interest until 2008 (25 months). I decided to get it Friday but did not have enough time to talk my wife into it... She wants one now but I will wait until BB or CC has it on sale again.
theres no need to wait unless you want to. any smart retailer would not mind giving you a previous sale price for a tv especially when its at least $5000 in revenue right there. the 60xbr has REDICULOUS mark up on it. when you're ready (regardless of sale or not), go in there and see what they can do. they will definitely match it or even beat it.
they can ALWAYS give you 2 years no interest rather its a promo or not cause they have a number that they can put in to request it.
Thanks for the advice. I did not know that but now that you mention it they (Best Buy) did hint that they were a little flexable with regards to throwing in a stand or at least giving me one cheaper. Having looked at the online prices, it looks like I can save 600-900 bucks (no taxes) but I am paranoid about buying an expensive TV online. I like the comfort level (real or imagined) of a local store (and extended warranty). The ext warr sounded like a good idea because of the "bulb" thing... I guess I could go to Circuit City and Best Buy and see which one gives me the best deal. I am going to order the Directv tomorrow... I am so pumped... I'm on a high... This must be similar to what women feel like when they go shopping for clothes. Thanks again for that advice. Maybe I can get this thing before the bowl games.
IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE, GO WITH THE DLP, BETTER PICTURE AND LCD IS NOT TRULY DIGITAL.
Tell me why LCD is not "Digital" while DLP is. and explain it, don't just proclaim it!
Give me a break.
DLP cannot react to fast moving sports at all...I was set on DLP...until I looked closer...
check out the Sharp 37" and 45" LCD and compare to Samsung (probably the best) DLP. Then tell what up!
Even look at the Sony 50" A10 model--you can buy it anywhere for under 2K.
Personally, I think that for a larger screen size DLP is the technology of choice. Also, with DLP you don't really have to worry about screen burn-in and ghosting with high framerate games. I use my DLP as a computer monitor for my HTPC and it rivals even the best lcd tv. The downside is the price, with lcd prices dropping faster than next-gen DLP tvs lcd tvs are definitely the consumer-friendly choice. But for overall quality and function, DLP all the way. One last thing of note, the new generation of DLP tvs from Samsung support 1080p resolution, so if you are using it for a monitor or other computer peripheral, you can achieve a true 1080p resolution. I hope that this helps.
I have to agree with doobzilla on this one. I have spent over a year making comparisons between the LCD and the DLP, forget the plasma, and have talked to the sales-people as well as visiting the stores. I bought the Toshiba 52HM95 which is the next generation DLP. When I compared them side by side, and remember the stores use HD broadcasts to help sell the sets, there was really no comparison. On gaming or fast motion the LCD was jerkey, the DLP was smooth, the viewing angle on this set is great at 135 degreas. The only problem I saw was top to bottom viewing, if you stand to close and are Andre the giant you will lose some quality and lightness. This size set is made to be viewed at a distance. As for the rainbow effect some people want to bring into discussion, I haven't found anyone yet who has experienced it. If you keep the bulb setting on low, which I use almost all the time, you will get plenty of life out of it. The bottom line is what looks best for you and your family.
Maybe I should start a new thread. I am looking to buy a DLP set. I also looked last year around football playoff time and I saw a lot more choices for DLP sets. Why are there so few options now? Are they coming out with a new chip? Best Buy indicated that they have a model year change over but I'm not sure that is what it is. Anyone know why there are so few DLP sets out there?
Perhaps LCD has caught up--I can tell you this; after much research, I am going to put a Sharp 37 Inch LCD in my TV Room, hooked up to Digital 5.1 surround sound---The LCD can handle the bright light I have in summer and during the day, and the LCD (THE SHARP) is only 4 inches thick---also, the back of the Samsung 42 Inch DLP has a definite ''cheap'' quality/feel to it, why the Sharp & even the Sony 42''A10 model are much better quality wise.
The only decision I have to make now, finally, is the Sony 42A10 or the Sharp Flat Panel 37''.
Any thoughts, anyone???