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Laptop help

by kat1864 / November 2, 2011 1:05 AM PDT

I have been looking to replace the laptop (HP Pavilion dv6000) that got
me through college, and am finding myself rather stumped. I've been
doing research online and have visited the store, but it feels a bit
like a crap shoot.

Criteria in consideration:
Reliable, reasonably portable
(probably 14"), good battery life, decent processor (I'm thinking Intel
i5), quick start-up, preferably not super ugly, under $800, web cam. I will be using the computer for basic web surfing, video streaming, MS Office, etc. No gaming, video editing or other excessive memory-eating activities. After experiencing HP's bloatware, I'm hoping to avoid going through that again.

The first two
are available at Best Buy, which is nice for the instant
gratification. The Dell would have to be ordered via internet. I am
also open to other ideas.


Samsung
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394305,00.asp#fbid=Vuh6O39D4dW

Asus
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394971,00.asp#fbid=Vuh6O39D4dW


or
http://www.amazon.com/U30SD-XA1-13-3-Inch-Light-Laptop-Black/dp/B004YW6I38/ref=sr_1_17?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1320244928&sr=1-17

Dell
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392299,00.asp#fbid=Vuh6O39D4dW

Any thoughts? Thanks!

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Let me share I'm a bit biased here.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 2, 2011 1:14 AM PDT
In reply to: Laptop help

I own the next up, last year model Samsung RC512. The aluminum case never seems hot and it's nearly instant on or hybrid sleep mode is something you will be amazed at if you never saw it before.

Talk about quick start up. About 3 to 5 seconds here. The Samsung should win this round.

The only quibble is that if you want to play games I'd stick to card games. But this model is worth another look.
Bob

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Note about battery life extension.Samsung may win this round
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 2, 2011 4:05 AM PDT

Samsung has a great feature here. To extend battery life, they have a little app to pull down the full charge to 80%

By doing so we'll see if we'll every need a battery.
Bob

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Its a battery
by TWB404 / November 2, 2011 7:09 AM PDT

That means it will fail one day depending on its usage. You discharge it and recharge it 300 times ,give or take, and it is going to go bad. It does not matter if you discharge it 50% and recharge it 50%, or any kind of combination 300 times, give or take, and it is going to fail. The fact that they made it user unfriendly to change means they just want to make an extra $75 to $100 when it does. My advice to anyone, when you see a manufacture goes this route is not to buy that product.

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You saw this complaint about the iPod
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 2, 2011 7:18 AM PDT
In reply to: Its a battery

And yet it's doing quite well.

Isn't it about time to toss out outdated ideas like this?

We get a little less weight and less parts to fail.
Bob

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Comparing Apples to Oranges are we
by TWB404 / November 2, 2011 7:36 AM PDT

I find it surprising that you would compare a iPod to a laptop. Apple makes everything so it has to go back to the shop for servicing, hence the reason I have never owned one. iPod like the iPhone succeeded because they where the first on the market with the features they offered and had no competition for a very long time. That is changing tho so we will see how it plays out.

The battery in a laptop that has to go back to the shop to be changed is going to weight roughly the same. The only weight saving is going to be the plastic cover which can be no more then an once or 2. Does a user want to pay an extra $75 to $100 to get a new battery to save a ounce or 2 on weight.

Only those who will profit from changing these batteries are going to support making batteries user unfriendly to change.

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We've been here before.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 2, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

And given how few batteries get replaced over the years this is a GREAT DESIGN move.

Speaking of Apples, I think all the Apple laptops did this years ago. It's working out there too!
Bob

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We'll see
by TWB404 / November 2, 2011 8:08 AM PDT

Apple is doing so well they control less then 10% of the puter market. hmmmmm I have read that people who own iPod do choose to throw them away instead of having the battery changed. The cost of a new one was less then what it would cost to change the battery. hmmmmmm Apple went so far as to change the screws in the iPhone to keep others from changing the battery. hmmmmmm Must be a lot of money in changing those batteries.

Now lets apply that to laptops. The Samsung he is looking at is $680. Are you recommending that when the battery goes bad in a year or 2 he just throw it away and buy a new one. Or, would it better be better to go buy a new battery. Wait, he is going to have to pay an extra $75 to $100 to get it change. If it was a standard laptop battery all he has to do is flip a latch and pop in another one and he is back up and running. Laptop batteries cost between $75 to $125.

Does a user, after 1 to 2 years, want to throw away a laptop they paid $680 because the battery went bad or do they want to replace it for as little as possible and get a few more years out of it. I do know that I would not want to throw it away and I would not want to add $75 to $100 just to get a new battery.

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Most users are smarter than that.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 2, 2011 8:27 AM PDT
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I think we need to think that most owners will be able to remove the cover to slip in a new battery.

If you've used this model (I have the other one) it's hard to ignore the new features.

-> I can't find the under 5 second wake from zero power feature on the others.
Bob

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Lean towards ASUS
by TWB404 / November 2, 2011 3:54 AM PDT
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The Samsung battery can not be removed without taking the laptop apart. That means you will have to take it to a shop to get a new battery when that one goes bad. That will ad 75$ to 100$ to the new battery replacement. If you use the battery regularly, that will happened after about 300 hundred cycles. ASUS come with a drop and spill warranty along with the standard warranty. They make the best motherboards on the market and their bloatware is not as bad. They also come with facial reconnection software for logging in.

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