LAN Trouble using XP Pro

David,

Thanks for the links, but... I still need assistance.

What was wrong with setting the Share, entering a password, and... being Done!?
There must be 4 or 5 Different places for settings to be able to join a Workgroup.


I have gone through these pages [and others] multiple times...
Still have the same problem, and so far unable to find the solution.

Almost all of the information I've found is about sharing the files ON the XP computer;
I will of course want to do that [later], but for now I am trying to gain FULL access to
the files on the ME and se computers... From the XP machine.


On the ME I've set up
Share Name: E:
Access Type: "Depends on Password"
Passwords: (Full Access Password)

When I access the drive I am NOT asked for a password! Why not?


I have "Simple File Sharing" UNchecked
"Guest" account is OFF
I have never set a password on the XP
(I was unaware of all of the different "Accounts" when I first set this up)
The "Welcome" screen does not come up when I start the computer.

I don't know what other information to provide that may be of help.


Thanks again for your time and trouble...
MAKE a nice day... Pat


BTW: Are any HTML Tags useable when posting ATT?

If you have no problem accessing the ME/98 machines but the only issue is read/write you can use the take ownership of files in XP.

See this link:

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP

Alternatively try creating the same user account in all PCs.

Oh! for use of tags the info is in the Forum FAQ link on the righthand side of the page.
See how I add a hidden link above & change the fonts to bold.

Thank you for the time Dave...

but everythiong I'm reading has to do with accessing an "XP" machine.
I do not want to access mine (not yet anyway).
I am having trouble accessing ME and 98se PCs from an XP Pro PC.

Accessing the ME... it does not ask for a Password (like it should)
Accessing the XP... it asks for a Password (it shouldn't - I've never set a PW)

Is there anything else you, or anyone, can offer that may be of any help?
- I am STUCK -

I do appreciate the help
Thanks again Pat

David,

Thanks for the links, but... I still need assistance.

What was wrong with setting the Share, entering a password, and... being Done!?
There must be 4 or 5 Different places for settings to be able to join a Workgroup.


I have gone through these pages [and others] multiple times...
Still have the same problem, and so far unable to find the solution.

Almost all of the information I've found is about sharing the files ON the XP computer;
I will of course want to do that [later], but for now I am trying to gain FULL access to
the files on the ME and se computers... From the XP machine.


On the ME I've set up
Share Name: E:
Access Type: "Depends on Password"
Passwords: (Full Access Password)

When I access the drive I am NOT asked for a password! Why not?


I have "Simple File Sharing" UNchecked
"Guest" account is OFF
I have never set a password on the XP
(I was unaware of all of the different "Accounts" when I first set this up)
The "Welcome" screen does not come up when I start the computer.

I don't know what other information to provide that may be of help.


Thanks again for your time and trouble...
MAKE a nice day... Pat


BTW: Are any HTML Tags useable when posting ATT?

...when I first set up my LAN I removed everything except TCP/IP.
After reading your Post I went back to check everything... it hasn't changed.

...Thank you anyway
Pat

Bob,

I guess it would have been more appropriate to use the word "write" other than alter.

The way I was testing "full access" was by attempting to write to a Text document (.txt .wri .doc etc.), and SAVE the change.

The only MS products installed on my PC is XPPro (with XP Plus and SP1) and IE6 (SP1).

I am no closer to solving this problem than when I started.


Thank you, and...
MAKE a day ... Pat///

The forum software doesn't allow me to read all the current items in this thread and DO NOT complain to me if I miss some point covered in this thread. Please... I guess I could click on each of the dozen postings, collect it into a notepad and view it there, but I'd rather condense the issue to one paragraph in your first post and make comments on that. If this is OK by you, then we can move forward.

Your first post wrote "What I am trying to set up is... Full access to each PC from the XP machine, while allowing NO access to the XP pc [unless I individually grant it]."

1. This will take some work as each machine must share what you want to share. The 98 machines will be simple shares with how things work in that world. Be aware that if you ask 98 to give a name or password on the shares, XP will stymie some as you need to use the CONNECT AS username/password feature. Outdated 98 boxes may not play well and Windows Update may or may not cure this.

2. Protocols.

Pick one. I think you did.

3. The XP denial issue.

You stated you wanted to allow NO access to the XP box unless granted. This is something of a problem. To share from the XP box will require some access to be able to browse the shared resources so connections can be made at which time the RIGHTS and access controls you set up come fully into play.

What confounds many is that such rights are by USER, GROUPS and settings in the ACL or access control lists. The utility CACLS (a command line tool) is immensely helpful when I'm trying to dissect why some scheme isn't working.

3. USERS and groups.

I will not teach network security. There are fine books about this as well as your web pages and more. I will note that for a 98 box to access your machine, and if you have NTFS formatted drives, you do get this sort of control.

The user that logged on the 98 box (which means said boxes have the MS CLIENT installed) must have a matching account on the XP box. Said user would then fall into the access control on what files their group and user have rights to.

I've seen a lot of setups where the GUEST account is enabled, the MS CLIENT (98 boxes) isn't loaded and nothing seems right. It's up to you to find a good book or web site on these subjects.

Some may fault Microsoft for not teaching these network security skills or supplying a book on such, but the reason is simple. It's the money. For years I found supplied documention that was never opened by the majority. A few would consult such, but very few.

Hopefully something I wrote will trigger an idea to fix it. Remember that I can't teach these items in just one post, but can drop ideas and direction about such.

Best of luck,

Bob

Bob,

Thanks for taking the time to post such an extensive reply

I don't mind looking things up, or buying books, etc, I actually enjoy it;
I would would miss many small items otherwise; one of the problems is,
all of the lititure I'm finding wants the XP to be the CENTER of everything;
I want it to be just another PC linked into the LAN (that has access to everything).


(The way it Was)
Each machine is connected through a Router
No trouble for 98 and ME to access each other...
(set the network WorkGroup, etc.)
Choose the Drive...
Choose the access allowed...
Choose a password.

When attempting to access one machine from the other...
I am asked for a password...
After entering the password I am granted access.


After setting the XP box to the same 'workgroup' I expected it
to behave the same as the others... it did not behave anything
at all like the others... I am stymied.


and... the Geek Greek has got me somewhat befuddled;
the new terms, tools, utilities, etc. that come with XP Pro
... use the CONNECT AS username/password feature ?
... ACL ?
... CACLS ?
"What confounds many is..." Make that many + one


I'm on my way back to read/investigate some more, when I have a better
understanding of what I'm talking about... "I'll be back".


Thanks again for the use of your time, and...
. MAKE a day ... Pat///