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General discussion

Kppp & modem setup

Apr 1, 2005 11:34AM PST

Hi everyone

Dell pIII 800mhz
Windows ME
Knoppix 3.7 cd

Booted Knoppix from cd and I am trying to connect to ISP.Via dial-up
I am using manual as wizard does not include USA in the countries.After configuring the system tells me the modem is ready and then switches to initializing modem. It never completes the initiliazing process. I am also getting a message on the bottom of the log which says "expecting Ok" Help section tell me to adjust line termination. Tried all three with no further success.
Have tried different combinations this is the one that get anywhere close to dialing.

Modem-Creative modem blaster v.92 PCI di5633
device-/dev/ttyso
flow control-[xon/xoff]
line termination-cr/lf
connection speed-57600

Dynamic IP address
Gateway Default
Domain name WT.NET
dns-auto
log script-expect
no accounting
authenication-pap/chap

This is my first venture in Linux and any help would be greatly appreciated

Ray

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re: kppp(and gppp)
Apr 3, 2005 3:36AM PDT

Been so long, I can't remember exactly. Do remember the agony of installing the Winmodem when I bought my first Linux(Red Hat 9). If your computer is finding your modem on boot, that's the hard part. Enter KPPP setup (or the Gnome version, GPPP) in a browser and look at the many links. This is one of those amazingly easy, once you figure it out, but extemely frustrating till do, things about Linux. You may have to do some changing around till you get it just right(or not). You WILL need the alpha-numeric ID and password your ISP supplied you. Post back with any questions. chuck

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kppp
Apr 4, 2005 1:50AM PDT

Hi chuck

Well I did some search and reading on Knoppix forum and other linux sites.

As far as I can tell this Creative is a winmodem and a hcf modem. I could not find Creative in any of the Linux sites. Bad news for me and Knoppix

The other search I did was to run lspci from a terminal and found a convexant modem listed. At this moment not sure how to delete it. Also at this time not seeing a modem found in the boot screen. Still trying to get pause to work for better look. Also tried to query modem and had no results in the panel. This cd was downloaded by a friend from thier computer could this modem be part of their system.

As the creative modem has software called net waiting to answer my single line telephone I would not want to go to a modem that cannot run this software.

What are the odds I can get this modem to work. Am I spending my time uselessly. Can I get a modem to work with linux and creative software.

Thanks for your time and knowledge

Ray

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Don't know if I've tried
Apr 4, 2005 6:09AM PDT

I was under the impression you just have to have fast eyes. You will, as you learn more about what you are actually
looking at. As for the modem, your 1st post and your last
post told me Linux is seeing your modem on boot. You are worrying about semantics. It is identifying the actual chip, not the fancy name Creative gave it. Don't worry about it unless EVERYTHING you try doesn't work. Just start setting up a connection. Just remembered something. Don't worry about KPPP right now. You have a later distro. Go to Applications-System-Configuration-Internet-
New Connection-Modem-and go from there. It will lead you through the steps. Don't be afraid to change things
or remove the connection and start over. Damn, you new guys have it easy. Good luck and post back. chuck
PS-I always put a "Configure System" launcher on my tool bar, you need it often, just like solitaire.

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Knoppix
Apr 5, 2005 12:43PM PDT

Hi Chuck

You are right we sure have it easy.Only thing is I still remember the Commadore 64 the IBM 286,386 and my first windows the PS2 and all the dos and Lotus 123 w/wysiwyg.

Well I finally got my eyes to working faster and the boot showed no signs of a modem. Ran dmesg and no signs of the modem. I went to Knoppix forum and start chasing info and finaly found where my modem would not work. According to the experts it is on the no no list.

Now that I have had time to run Knoppix I find that the file has lots of errors the download was a bad one. I have ordered a new suse 9.1 and will try that one.

Would like your opinion on a new modem that will work with Linux,Microsoft,etc.I have found a USR Internal serial with all the extra I want. It is model 5610b Fits in PCI slot.The unit cost 89.26 I also found Zoom external model 3049-00-00c with all the extras including RS-232 cable and lifetime warranty for 79.99
These are both v.92/v.44 56K units.

I have a serial port com 1 open it is a nine pin connector Will this external work. And will the internal cause any extra heat in my case as it is also controller based.

Thanks for your help and expertise on these matters

Ray

In your judgement which would better suit my needs for further Linux installs.

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Ray, you have kind of confused me.
Apr 6, 2005 6:30AM PDT

You want a dial-up modem, right? They cost $20US or less.
Hawking, among others, makes a Linux compatible(Windows and Mac,too)one. Had one before I realized my Winmodem(that everyone said wouldn't work) just needed to be configured right. Look for your answers at WWW.linmodems.org. The answers will be more to the point. They also have a modem scanning program. Did you run the Internet Connection wizard as I suggested? If so, it didn't find a modem of any kind? Don't get hung up on wording, if it finds a modem of ANY kind, set it up. If it doesn't work at first, change things. If it doesn't find a modem, get back to me. chuck

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try this!!!
Apr 15, 2005 11:41PM PDT

hi,
have u tried installing the driver for ur modem???
u have to install the driver for ur modem if u want to access the internet. For this u have to log in as the root user.this is the method of installing ur modem......(once u have downloaded the driver u can also read the manual which comes along with the *.tar.gz file)......this link may help....http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/258.htm
In the terminal window(u will find it in the system options of the main menu), log in as the root and follow the steps mentioned below. u should uncompress the downloaded file.
STEP1: key in 'tar -xzf filename.tar.gz' at the terminal(it's -xzf or -vzf, plz try both). the 'filename' is the compressed filename of ur downloaded driver. this will uncompress the file and place it in the /root directory. as u will be present in the /root directory u dont need to use the cd command(change directory).
STEP2: key in 'cd filename'. this statement will enter u into the uncompressed file folder. the prompt will look like this....
#
STEP3: key in 'make install'. this command will install the modem driver and as a result u can access the internet thru' ur modem. u have to follow some instructions which will be asked after u key in 'make install', but don't worry it will be plain and simple english so that u can understand the right way.
STEP4: i hope u know to use kppp software. it is used for dialup services.
plz try this method and tell me if its working.......b'coz i tried it and i was successful.

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Update modem problem
Apr 16, 2005 12:08PM PDT

I solved my problems by install Suse 9.1 and a serial external modem.

It works on Knoppix and Suse distro's

I know Thanks is not very much for all your help Chuckieu and Viphilar but believe me it was greatly appreciated.

Ray