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Kodak 7430 Vs Panasonic Lumix LC50- Need help!

by babuma / March 30, 2004 10:37 AM PST

I planning to buy a new 3MP digital camera for the first time. I have shortlisted these two.

Kodak 7430 and Panasonic lumix LC50.

My requirements are
1) Good picture quality
2) Compact with AA battery
3) Unlimited movie with sound

Initally I thought of buying LC50. But I now I came across Kodak which can store VGA ( QVGA also ) movie in Mpeg4 format. But LC50 can store movies only in 320x240 format in Quicktime format, I guess. So I presume Kodak should be able to store movies for more time, if we are using the same resolution , since Kodak uses Mpeg-4 format.

Does the resolution change ( VGA to QVGA ) make big difference while playing back in TV?. Because I know all VCDs are around QVGA and produces resonably good clarity in TV. Can I play back movies directly to TV from the camera using the A/V cable?

Do you have any experience with these two cameras?. If will be a great help to me if you can share it.

Any help is appreciated!

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Re:Kodak 7430 Vs Panasonic Lumix LC50- Need help!
by snapshot / March 30, 2004 1:06 PM PST

Both of these cameras are new and not much first hand experience is available yet.

A few facts first:

The Kodak 7430 is a 4 megapixel camera.
Movie mode is 640x480 (VGA) at 13 fps (frames per second or 320x240 (QVGA) at 20 fps.

The Panasonic LC50 is a 3 megapixel camera.
The Panasonic LC70 is a 4 megapixel camera.
The LC50 does not have a microphone which means no sound on movies.
The LC70 does have a michrophone and movie sound.
Movie mode for both is 320x240 (QVGA) at 10 or 30 fps

A few notes:

A movie at 640x480 13 fps will not be smooth (jumpy).
A movie at 320x240 20 fps will not be perfectly smooth
A movie at 320x240 30 fps will be smooth.

If you find a VCD movie to be acceptable, you will probably think the same for 320x240.


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Re:Re:Kodak 7430 Vs Panasonic Lumix LC50- Need help!
by babuma / March 31, 2004 2:34 AM PST

Thanks a lot for your reply..

May I post coule of questions more..

Can these Camera play back the video directly to the TV?. For playing back a 320x240 movie, I guess u need a scaler ( for scaling to PAL/NTSC resolution) and a decoder ( for decoding the AVI/Mpeg4 steam). I am just wondering whether this is also built in into the camera.

If I take a 3MP picture using a 4MP camera and using a 3MP camera, will the picture quality will vary in both case?. Or can I get a better quality 3MP picture if I use a 4MP camera instead of a 3MP camera?.

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Re:Re:Re:Kodak 7430 Vs Panasonic Lumix LC50- Need help!
by snapshot / March 31, 2004 7:10 AM PST

I had never tried to play-back a movie from camera to TV. I have two digital cameras handy and checked the manual for each and they both said that they could indeed play a movie directly to a TV,

So I took a short movie with each camera (Canon and Olympus) and they did play the movie on the TV with the cables that were supplied with the camera(s).

I observed that I should have held the camera(s) steadier while taking the movie(s). Hard to do with a camera so small.

The Olympus took 320x240 15fps and the picture quality was not great. It looked much like a poor VHS 8mm analog camera, but jumpy.

The Canon took 640x480 15fps and the picture was much improved over the Olympus but still jumpy (15fps just doesn't cut it).

Holding the camera steady is going to be a problem. Tripod would help a lot.


Regarding you other question:

A 3Meg photo taken with a 4Meg camera should not be better than a 3Meg photo taken with a 3Meg camera.

One thing I have noticed. There will not be a great difference between a 3Meg photo and a 4Meg photo UNLESS you have a complex subject that has lots of surfaces. Grass and tree leaves are complex subjects.

The complex subject will also be helped by using the finest setting for camera .jpg compression. The less compression, the better. If the camera can shoot .tif format, (zero compression) use it.

If you plan to print large photos, more megapixels is best.


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by babuma / March 31, 2004 7:56 AM PST

Again thanks a lot!!.

I think I will go ahead and buy Panasonic Lumix LC50. I read that Kodak picture quality is less compared to these cameras. I hope the 3MP Lumix will produce better quality 3MP picture than the 4MP Kodak. More over Kodak doesn't offer VGA at 30 fps.

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