Known issues of diff. brands of smartphones

Well since you said that that's a model-specific unit and that your friend HAS used it, there goes a big size contradiction in your own theory.

And, on top of what I described, most of this problem occurred to those who travel internationally. Often times when they return from a different country the wifi button will turn gray and never be usable again(thus causing the Bluetooth to be unusable too)

The iPhone has been known to not network well after travel. Even I've seen that one where we have it forget all networks then add the one again. Some folk slam Apple for that, so why not make this your reason to not buy their product?

I wonder if you're here to slug it out with me rather than chat about what I'm seeing or possibly find some workaround.

Oh, there are folk that hate workarounds. That I do understand as many want things to be perfect. As someone wrote "in a perfect world."
Bob

Those are mostly cases w/ newbies who failed to understand how to select 'reset all network settings'.
Wifi on iOS devices works fine across the pond just like here.

I know that folk want to never have to deal with this or other tech things. My brother makes good money wiring up home theater systems, giving lessons on remote control use, etc....
Bob

Those are the cases with people who claim that if you didn't know an ALREADY known issue and still buy,
then don't bother fixing it at all or coming on to any forum to discuss about it, possibly because they're a frenzied fan of the brand and can't stand any factual criticism, so pathetic.

Assuming that you did and then immediately FORGOT what you saw due to some certain problems(obviously),
I will provide another example for you:
http://puu.sh/cw3Ml/5d955b7472.png

Now keep on saying that they're all idiots who failed to accomplish any already known solutions(which is not what I'm looking for, as anyone who can simply read the title can be able to tell) and you're the know-it-all here who actually doesn't even have a better solution

But don't repeat it to me though, I'm not the one who says Apple's products are all flawless and then threw on an adorable tantrum when someone brought on a known issue of the brand's problem.
(Do you even know that this happens with some iPads too? need any help finding the evidences? Let me know any time! )

Is it because I pointed out your contradiction in your previous post??

That's be *so* petty of you!

But don't make that stop you if you wanna go on throwing illogical accusations and crap that don't even make any sense at all(such as I'm "lazy" to work out a solution when you didn't offer any). Please specify that you're doing this just because you're painfully hurt over the my indication of your contradicting, illogical theory right above. Please do

"I have friends with iPhones (including the 4s) and they have zero issues"

vs

"The iPhone has been known to not network well after travel."

I see you are not here to discuss possible workarounds. You want to fight so I'm signing out of this one. Good luck in your trials.
Bob

I wasn't the one who started accusing people of something they didn't do/say.
But I'm glad that you can't stand the backfiring that you invited for yourself and are flouncing in SNIT and pretending you're above it all.
GOOD BYE and don't come back.

I've tried that Pepe(but to no avail).
This is already confirmed as a hardware problem that Apple refuses to fix(they'll perhaps just replace your phone with a different yet perhaps not even brand new one if you send it to their OOWS..well that's just what I "HEARD" if you know what I mean ).

And this happens with some of the iPads, too. Just search on their support community site!
So generally speaking. paying so much for an iPhone doesn't even mean that you have a guarantee for a stable device to use for a long time, while words on the street are saying that Android phones go bad in at least half of year.

*shrugs*

It's just buried in their support site. Probably around $200-249 to get a refurbished (but like new) iPhone with a 12 month warranty. A really great deal, especially if you have no access to regular subsidized phone upgrades, and do not want to deal with junky ebay or craigslist phones.

Whoever told you Android phones go bad in 6 months is flat out wrong, btw. Nothing new to see there though.

"Refurbished"(but like new) iPhone

I'd probably define THAT as new if I ever were so miserable to deal with crap phones from eBay or Craigslist. So sad.

If there continues to be petty bickering, this thread will be closed. Play nice.

Truth be told, I probably handle more cellular phones in a month than you have ever seen (LOL). <pointing to large piles on the two tables on my right...>

Don't let the word 'refurbished' trip you up. Obtaining directly from Apple is a good thing. Many of them are simply unneeded returned stock (open box/turned on but never used) from businesses that have ordered large batches of phones. YMMV.

I do sympathize a little since it's true- some problems may never be completely addressed by Apple, especially with a three year old phone. Ask yourself though if anyone else in the marketplace handles it better though, considering these devices are now essentially commodities in the marketplace (since the service costs the user more than the telephone hardware).

Yes, up front costs for Apple devices can be pricey, but I still like the fact that they don't pause to ask so much about the details of what did or did not happen to a device when you send it in for a replacement out of warranty. I'm not sure the other manufacturers will go much beyond repairing the odd screen (a la HTC, etc.). That may have changed recently though for some.

Good luck on surviving with the monthly agenda of "handling" more than a dozen hundred smartphones! LOL
I wish you luck seriously! LOL!(But then why are you relying on Apple's OOWS only while me and all others around me all know how to hack that problem with the proper equipments? Oh wait, you gotta be kidding, you are the ones who can POINT at two piles of smartphones! LOL!)

And let me remind you, even with that solution, it is still no reason to say that one SHOULDN'T refuse buying a phone with a known issue(well, maybe you will, that's why you're off topic all the way along, right???)


Known issues of smartphones are not all on the table, and ascertaining them before making decisions
is just a BASIC common sense So steer CLEAR of this thread if you actually don't know any better. Go divert your futile effort into arguing with someone else!