.
![]() | Thank you for being a valued part of the CNET community. As of December 1, 2020, the forums are in read-only format. In early 2021, CNET Forums will no longer be available. We are grateful for the participation and advice you have provided to one another over the years. Thanks, CNET Support |
Discussion is locked
A basic thought, especially for Dave K.
It's just the first week in March, and the election is in November. It's like Bruce Lee interlacing his fingers and cracking his knuckles in a movie-- the "real action" is coming.
Dave, you mentioned something about a "moratorium" in a previous post. Forget it. Remember the last-minute "bombshell" attempt about Bush's DUI in his youth in a previous election? Your party laid the ground rules, now stand and take the "return fire".
... I went and did the searches myself. Not sure if that is really funny, or just sad. If they don't like Bush's ads featuring scenes of 9-11, maybe they will prefer the simulated toke video of John F'en Kerry! Now THAT was a Presidential moment!!
Evie ![]()
David, I've got an idea for Kerry. He could start using the word y'all constantly. That should make him "just folks". (grin)
....he could refer to a New York Times reporter as an "*******" while onstage at a campaign appearance, or tell a reporter how he and his dad liked to talk about "*****."![]()
speak in such a low, ungodly, ungoodly manner?
Dan
Such language would not befit a Presidential candidate, would it. I don't know why I even suggested Kerry make such comments. Live and learn.
Bush whispered that to Cheney and a reporter picked it up on a mike in the area.
Hot dog, the Democrats have brought a new rule into play. O.K., field reporters and crews, grab your Sennheiser Shotgun mics and have at it, let's see what Kerry says off mike.
I thought Josh was just, you know, joshing. ![]()
Is the other part of it true, too?
Dan
What other part, picking up something said off-camera with a shotgun or something like a wireless mic that some political type forgot that he was wearing? Boy, howdy yes, I've had a "beaut" or two in my news career.
Are you talking about the year 1988 when Hartford Courant associate editor David Fink struck up a conversation with George W. Bush? Note: editor, not a reporter.
That was 16 years ago. Hot dog, another new rule, Now any word that Kerry used that long ago in is "fair game".
The other part is true too. It was some time ago as J noted. W was asked what he and his father like to talk about other than politics, and his reply was one word.
I went to Kerry's website and did a search on the word "f***." It found four links -- all to articles about Kerry in which the writer used the word. No direct quotes from Kerry that I could find. I know he's used the word but I didn't find any examples of him being quoted using it at his own website as the Sludge Report says.
Hi Josh,
Not only did he use the f word in an interview, he has defended using it. Bush's ******* comment was not intended to be a public comment. That's the difference, and it is not very Presidential on Kerry's part. Then again, not much about him is.
Evie ![]()
I still think the original subject line of this thread, stating that Kerry's website is "riddled with obscenities" is misleading. The words can only be found in linked articles that were published elsewhere; not at the site itself.
If Bush didn't intend for the "A" word to be a public comment, perhaps he should have waited until he'd gotten off the stage to say it.
Bush was onstage at a campaign appearance, at most a few feet a way from a live mic that was in plain view and had been put there for him to use. If he didn't have enough sense to consider that before making his comment, it's nobody's fault but his.
No you come on Josh!
I don't think more or less of someone who uses obscenities occasionally. But I also think there is a big difference between the two. Kerry used it in an interview and defends the use of it. Bush made the comment to Cheney and a mic just happened to be around. Bush didn't call the reporter an ******* to another reporter on the record. There is a big difference there.
Speaking of open mics, if you think Bush is stupid for not knowing a mic on a stage was on, how about Kerry for not realizing his mic was still on only moments after using it!
Evie ![]()
Evie, remember what I said about the press "smelling blood" and turning into sharks? Josh needs to understand that they smell blood in the water and are circling and when they are worked up into that state shark repellant is useless, it only serves to show new ones where the feeding is in progress.
Sometimes people say stupid things while sitting inches from a live mic.
Bush may not have been speaking on the record but he was hardly in a private situation. Perhaps some clarification is in order as to when it is OK for Presidential candidates to curse.
Josh, Kerry was wearing a micropone (Looked like a Sony ECM-50) so by that reasoning, his comment is his fault and is in "political play". But he is silent about it. Granted, he was turned away from the camera and no interview or formal statement was in progress, but if the Democrats can play "off-camera", so can the Republicans. It was curious that the camera was rolling, looking at Kerry, and in focus.
Josh, the Democrats had their feeding frenzy with that past Bush comment, now it's Kerry's turn. The door now swings both ways. Are intercepted cell phone conversations (Newt) or other things like casino business records or old driving records also "in play" for Kerry? It seems like Bush's military and medical records are in play (they have been put on the table) while Kerry's are not, I see the old double standard here.
I guess that means you acknowledge that Kerry has not remained silent on the "crooks" remark as you previously said he had.
You seemed perfectly happy to wait three years into Bush's Presidency for the release of his military service records. What's your rush now?
I'll also betcha Kerry doesn't have a DUI record. You may not like the fact that these things came out, but at least they really happened, unlike Kerry's "affair." You don't hear any more about that, do you? Wonder why not?
Josh, now he's playing "flip-flop" about what he was refering to. The Democrats suddenly bought up Bush's records, that's why the interest now. Bush put his forward, it's time for Kerry to do the same, after all, the Democrats bought it up as a pollitical weapon. It's too late to hide, Josh, the Democrats had first shot in this duel, now it's time for Kerry to stand his ground and take return fire, not run away from the field.
No flip-flop that I could see. He explained what he was talking about and has been consistent in that explanation.
If you want to see flip-flopping, look at the way the Bush team has tried to back off its job growth projections.