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Kerry's website riddled with obscenities

Mar 7, 2004 12:12PM PST

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I agree (NT)
Mar 7, 2004 12:25PM PST

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Basic thought....
Mar 7, 2004 12:44PM PST

A basic thought, especially for Dave K.
It's just the first week in March, and the election is in November. It's like Bruce Lee interlacing his fingers and cracking his knuckles in a movie-- the "real action" is coming.
Dave, you mentioned something about a "moratorium" in a previous post. Forget it. Remember the last-minute "bombshell" attempt about Bush's DUI in his youth in a previous election? Your party laid the ground rules, now stand and take the "return fire".

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LOL...
Mar 7, 2004 8:40PM PST

... I went and did the searches myself. Not sure if that is really funny, or just sad. If they don't like Bush's ads featuring scenes of 9-11, maybe they will prefer the simulated toke video of John F'en Kerry! Now THAT was a Presidential moment!!

Evie Happy

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Here's the reason for the "internationalist" obscenities, honest!
Mar 9, 2004 11:16PM PST
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I've got an idea for Kerry...
Mar 9, 2004 11:45PM PST

David, I've got an idea for Kerry. He could start using the word y'all constantly. That should make him "just folks". (grin)

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Or maybe....
Mar 10, 2004 12:10AM PST

....he could refer to a New York Times reporter as an "*******" while onstage at a campaign appearance, or tell a reporter how he and his dad liked to talk about "*****."

Wink

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That would be disgusting, Josh. Why would anyone
Mar 10, 2004 12:17AM PST

speak in such a low, ungodly, ungoodly manner?

Dan

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Yeah, you're right
Mar 10, 2004 12:37AM PST

Such language would not befit a Presidential candidate, would it. I don't know why I even suggested Kerry make such comments. Live and learn.

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Hot dog, new rule in play....
Mar 10, 2004 5:40AM PST

Bush whispered that to Cheney and a reporter picked it up on a mike in the area.
Hot dog, the Democrats have brought a new rule into play. O.K., field reporters and crews, grab your Sennheiser Shotgun mics and have at it, let's see what Kerry says off mike.

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Wait. That really happened?
Mar 10, 2004 5:45AM PST

I thought Josh was just, you know, joshing. Wink

Is the other part of it true, too?

Dan

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The other part...
Mar 10, 2004 5:54AM PST

What other part, picking up something said off-camera with a shotgun or something like a wireless mic that some political type forgot that he was wearing? Boy, howdy yes, I've had a "beaut" or two in my news career.

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No, what Josh said he told a reporter. -nt
Mar 10, 2004 6:16AM PST

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Are you takling about (you too, Josh)
Mar 10, 2004 12:21PM PST

Are you talking about the year 1988 when Hartford Courant associate editor David Fink struck up a conversation with George W. Bush? Note: editor, not a reporter.
That was 16 years ago. Hot dog, another new rule, Now any word that Kerry used that long ago in is "fair game".

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Re:Wait. That really happened?
Mar 10, 2004 10:12PM PST

The other part is true too. It was some time ago as J noted. W was asked what he and his father like to talk about other than politics, and his reply was one word.

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Brevity is the soul of wit. :-)
Mar 10, 2004 11:24PM PST

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Re:LOL...
Mar 9, 2004 11:23PM PST

I went to Kerry's website and did a search on the word "f***." It found four links -- all to articles about Kerry in which the writer used the word. No direct quotes from Kerry that I could find. I know he's used the word but I didn't find any examples of him being quoted using it at his own website as the Sludge Report says.

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Re:Re:LOL...
Mar 11, 2004 11:23PM PST

Hi Josh,

Not only did he use the f word in an interview, he has defended using it. Bush's ******* comment was not intended to be a public comment. That's the difference, and it is not very Presidential on Kerry's part. Then again, not much about him is.

Evie Happy

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Re:Re:Re:LOL...
Mar 11, 2004 11:28PM PST

I still think the original subject line of this thread, stating that Kerry's website is "riddled with obscenities" is misleading. The words can only be found in linked articles that were published elsewhere; not at the site itself.

If Bush didn't intend for the "A" word to be a public comment, perhaps he should have waited until he'd gotten off the stage to say it.

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Do you remember, Josh...
Mar 11, 2004 11:59PM PST

Josh, do you remember when in 1981 Mehmet Al

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Oh come on, J
Mar 12, 2004 12:19AM PST

Bush was onstage at a campaign appearance, at most a few feet a way from a live mic that was in plain view and had been put there for him to use. If he didn't have enough sense to consider that before making his comment, it's nobody's fault but his.

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Re:Oh come on, J
Mar 12, 2004 12:31AM PST

No you come on Josh!

I don't think more or less of someone who uses obscenities occasionally. But I also think there is a big difference between the two. Kerry used it in an interview and defends the use of it. Bush made the comment to Cheney and a mic just happened to be around. Bush didn't call the reporter an ******* to another reporter on the record. There is a big difference there.

Speaking of open mics, if you think Bush is stupid for not knowing a mic on a stage was on, how about Kerry for not realizing his mic was still on only moments after using it!

Evie Happy

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Remember, Evie...
Mar 12, 2004 12:44AM PST

Evie, remember what I said about the press "smelling blood" and turning into sharks? Josh needs to understand that they smell blood in the water and are circling and when they are worked up into that state shark repellant is useless, it only serves to show new ones where the feeding is in progress.

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'I've just passed a law outlawing Russia. We start bombing in five minutes'
Mar 12, 2004 12:48AM PST

Sometimes people say stupid things while sitting inches from a live mic.

Bush may not have been speaking on the record but he was hardly in a private situation. Perhaps some clarification is in order as to when it is OK for Presidential candidates to curse.

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That would mean, Josh
Mar 12, 2004 12:36AM PST

Josh, Kerry was wearing a micropone (Looked like a Sony ECM-50) so by that reasoning, his comment is his fault and is in "political play". But he is silent about it. Granted, he was turned away from the camera and no interview or formal statement was in progress, but if the Democrats can play "off-camera", so can the Republicans. It was curious that the camera was rolling, looking at Kerry, and in focus.

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Re:That would mean, Josh
Mar 12, 2004 12:44AM PST
But he is silent about it.

No he isn't. He and his staffers have defended the comment. Perhaps you just didn't catch that on the news.

Either both comments are in "play" or neither one is. Which do you think it should be?
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It's Kerry's turn, Josh
Mar 12, 2004 12:55AM PST

Josh, the Democrats had their feeding frenzy with that past Bush comment, now it's Kerry's turn. The door now swings both ways. Are intercepted cell phone conversations (Newt) or other things like casino business records or old driving records also "in play" for Kerry? It seems like Bush's military and medical records are in play (they have been put on the table) while Kerry's are not, I see the old double standard here.

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I see you're changing the topic now
Mar 12, 2004 1:01AM PST

I guess that means you acknowledge that Kerry has not remained silent on the "crooks" remark as you previously said he had.

You seemed perfectly happy to wait three years into Bush's Presidency for the release of his military service records. What's your rush now?

I'll also betcha Kerry doesn't have a DUI record. You may not like the fact that these things came out, but at least they really happened, unlike Kerry's "affair." You don't hear any more about that, do you? Wonder why not?

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Now he's, Josh...
Mar 12, 2004 1:11AM PST

Josh, now he's playing "flip-flop" about what he was refering to. The Democrats suddenly bought up Bush's records, that's why the interest now. Bush put his forward, it's time for Kerry to do the same, after all, the Democrats bought it up as a pollitical weapon. It's too late to hide, Josh, the Democrats had first shot in this duel, now it's time for Kerry to stand his ground and take return fire, not run away from the field.

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Re:Now he's, Josh...
Mar 12, 2004 2:22AM PST

No flip-flop that I could see. He explained what he was talking about and has been consistent in that explanation.

If you want to see flip-flopping, look at the way the Bush team has tried to back off its job growth projections.

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He's not silent, he's standing by his statements.
Mar 12, 2004 12:53AM PST