Speakeasy forum

General discussion

Kerry: Genealogy. This "Irishman" is Jewish and French. Ahh...those carefree summers in France...

by James Denison / March 16, 2004 11:15 PM PST

For some, feel free to skim (heh, heh)


John Kerry is not Irish. As has been widely reported, John Kerry's grandfather, the devout Catholic Franklin Kerry, grew up in central Europe as the Jewish Fritz Kohn, changing his name before immigrating to the U.S. in 1905. Kerry's mother is part of a wealthy Massachusetts family that traces its English roots back to the founding of the Bay State (marrying wealth seems to be a tradition among the Kerry men).

URL made short

One of his French cousins, Brice Lalonde, a former Mitterrand minister for the environment and now mayor of St. Briac, where Kerry grew up, says that Cousin John would be a better president than George Bush. The French and European socialists love our French-speaking senator whom they believe will usher in a new era of close international relationships. They are possessive of his mother, who grew up in Brittany.

From his birth through his military service and political career to dubious fund-raising with Robert Torricelli and schemes with George Soros, Kerry has lived a charmed existence. Questions are publicly asked of him, carefully crafted non-answers are returned and accepted and the matter is closed.

For years, in Massachusetts, Kerry has gathered votes predicated on his "Irish" ancestry. His grandparents came to America from Bohemia where they had the honorable Jewish name of Kohn, which they subsequently changed to Kerry. Says Kerry, "(T)hose of us, who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contribution that Irish Americans ... ."


Should that happen, the advertising campaign on the Paris subways has been wasted. As of this week, hundreds of ads read, "55,000 places in U.S.green card lottery available for 2004 in France. Call 017271555 or go to webpage www.carteverteusa.com." Just what we need -- 55,000 new residents and their families from France, and John Forbes Kerry too.

Discussion is locked
You are posting a reply to: Kerry: Genealogy. This "Irishman" is Jewish and French. Ahh...those carefree summers in France...
The posting of advertisements, profanity, or personal attacks is prohibited. Please refer to our CNET Forums policies for details. All submitted content is subject to our Terms of Use.
Track this discussion and email me when there are updates

If you're asking for technical help, please be sure to include all your system info, including operating system, model number, and any other specifics related to the problem. Also please exercise your best judgment when posting in the forums--revealing personal information such as your e-mail address, telephone number, and address is not recommended.

You are reporting the following post: Kerry: Genealogy. This "Irishman" is Jewish and French. Ahh...those carefree summers in France...
This post has been flagged and will be reviewed by our staff. Thank you for helping us maintain CNET's great community.
Sorry, there was a problem flagging this post. Please try again now or at a later time.
If you believe this post is offensive or violates the CNET Forums' Usage policies, you can report it below (this will not automatically remove the post). Once reported, our moderators will be notified and the post will be reviewed.
Collapse -
One can hardly blame John Kerry who is just one of the

millions, perhaps billions, of people throughout the world who wish to elevate themselves to that highest pinnacle by claiming Irish ancestry.

It's only natural.



Collapse -
And today...
by Pat S / March 17, 2004 2:33 AM PST

Everyone is IRISH Happy

Collapse -
Is someone from County Tyrone considered Irish?
by Kiddpeat / March 17, 2004 2:41 AM PST

Just curious since a gggrandfather came from there. My Scotish roots are stronger.

Collapse -
I've been thinking that Kerry looks like a frenchman. Now I know why.

Is the overwhelming desire to advance to the rear in the genes?

Collapse -
Re: Kerry Genealogy -- another dose of mud. Contrast this...
Collapse -
Mud? Which side are you refering to? [nt]


Collapse -
Remember Goldwater vs. LBJ, Dave...
by J. Vega / March 18, 2004 1:58 AM PST

Dave when you do the "holier than thou" routine, remember the Goldwater vs. LBJ campaign. The Democrats did the same thing.

Collapse -
Re: Remember Goldwater vs. LBJ, Dave...
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / March 18, 2004 4:09 AM PST

Hi, J.

I was actually working for Goldwater at the time, and I certainly don't recall any veiled attacks on his Jewish ancestry...

-- Dave K.
Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

Collapse -
Re:Why is his or anyones geneology relevent??? Aren't we all Americans? nt


Collapse -
Cut him some slack, MK

When you can't campaign on the issues, this is the sort of thing you have to stoop to. I'm sure the next "scandal" will involve Kerry coloring his hair or something.

Collapse -
by Cindi Haynes / March 17, 2004 11:39 PM PST
In reply to: Cut him some slack, MK
Collapse -
(NT) I understand he puts his pants on ONE LEG AT A TIME too!
by Josh K / March 18, 2004 12:01 AM PST
In reply to: He COLORS his HAIR??
Collapse -
Politically it's not how one enters his pants that count, but...

...as Clinton has made obvious, who else enters them while he yet wears them. It's not how one puts his pants on, but when, where and with whom he lowers them. Those pesky pants and their foibles have ruined more than one career throughout history.

Collapse -
Re:Politically it's not how one enters his pants that count, but...
by Josh K / March 18, 2004 2:41 AM PST

Well that shouldn't really be any of anyone's business except the pants-dropper's family's, but that's another discussion.

Collapse -
**Trying hard not to imagine why you guys are so interested in Kerry's pants*** -nt
by Dan McC / March 18, 2004 3:18 AM PST
Collapse -
Simple -- the President should be able to put his pants on two legs at a time

I sadly fear that Kerry's inability to do this may be proof that he's unfit to lead.


Collapse -
I used to do that

But my wife complained about the jumping around early in the morning. There's also the broken furniture and knick-knacks to consider. And don't forget the cost of torn pants!



Collapse -
Sometimes it has a signifigant effect on elections.

Politicians will use thier ethnic roots to curry favor among that group and gain their support, because it works. Ethnic groups tend to also give strongest support to "one of our own".

What makes it interesting in this situation isn't Kerry's actual ethnic roots but almost humorously, him using the perception that he was Irish in past to garner a greater portion of that vote in Boston when running for office in past. The quote in the article I linked showed that perceived ethnicity was actively used by Kerry for that very purpose.

Ethnic background, Religious background, all these often factor into a voter's perception of a candidate and whether he wishes to vote for that person or not. Sometimes if some association would seem detrimental in an election, it actually turns out not to be so, as in the case of JFK being Catholic. There are probably a number of people that didn't vote for him based less on him and more on their objections to Catholicism and the Papacy, but obviously there were a large number who didn't allow that to negatively sway them when voting.

Don't tell me you've never noticed a politician mention or use his family background in an election? They all do. Some have even used invented ethnic backgrounds, which when discovered later can become a real hoot, LOL.

Popular Forums
Computer Newbies 10,686 discussions
Computer Help 54,365 discussions
Laptops 21,181 discussions
Networking & Wireless 16,313 discussions
Phones 17,137 discussions
Security 31,287 discussions
TVs & Home Theaters 22,101 discussions
Windows 7 8,164 discussions
Windows 10 2,657 discussions


Help, my PC with Windows 10 won't shut down properly

Since upgrading to Windows 10 my computer won't shut down properly. I use the menu button shutdown and the screen goes blank, but the system does not fully shut down. The only way to get it to shut down is to hold the physical power button down till it shuts down. Any suggestions?