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by lktgdt / December 14, 2004 8:02 AM PST

Please describe this optional update. Do I need it?

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(NT) (NT) i got it and 3 others np get it
by Mark5019 / December 14, 2004 8:38 AM PST
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lktgdt, It's 'Non-Security' Cumulative Update For ...
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 14, 2004 8:56 AM PST
In reply to: KB887797

...Outlook Express 6 but so far the actual knowledgebase article has been posted. I've installed it on half a dozen Windows 2000 and XP SP2 computers and so far, no problems.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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Grif
by Larry38 / December 14, 2004 9:13 AM PST

KB887797 did not show as an update on mine. I got KB873393,KB885835,KB885836,KB886185 and an Intel(R)82845G Graphics Controller.
Larry

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(NT) (NT) It's in the "Optional Software Updates" area Larry
by Donna Buenaventura / December 14, 2004 9:20 AM PST
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Donna, I found it....
by Larry38 / December 14, 2004 9:32 AM PST

I used Express Install, but I found it under Custom Install.
Thanks
Larry

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Larry
by roddy32 / December 14, 2004 9:25 AM PST
In reply to: Grif

If you do the "express scan" all it shows you is the critical updates. If you do the "custom scan", it still shows you the Critical ones BUT also shows you the "Optional ones" on the left side of the page. That's where the OE one is.

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(NT) (NT) Thanks roddy, Ck. reply to Donna.
by Larry38 / December 14, 2004 9:35 AM PST
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You're welcome Larry and
by roddy32 / December 14, 2004 10:01 AM PST

I never understood why they had two different scans anyway. They both take the same amount of time to scan and I, for one would like to know if there is something optional or not LOL. That is another reason why I have automatic updates disabled, Most people (the general public anyway)don't know enough to go to Windows Update and even check to see if there is anything else there because they think everything comes to them automatically but it's only the critical ones that do. I ALWAYS use the custom scan for that reason. I also like the "Hide updates" option. I have one hidden now for some family thing that I don't need cause I don't have kids and even if I did they would be grown up now anyway. If and when I ever decide i want it, it is there. LOL

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Roddy, This One's A Little Different
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 15, 2004 1:22 AM PST
In reply to: Larry

Although normally you're correct...the "Custom Install" shows less than "Critical" Updates, in this case, all of the updates in the "Express Install" are only "Important" while the "Outlook Express Cumulative Update KB887797" is a "Critical" one and it shows up in the "Custom Install".

I'm not sure WHY it's that why, it just IS. This morning, I've installed the updates on about 25 Windows 2000 and XP computers and they all show up the same..

Wierd.

Grif

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For me Grif
by roddy32 / December 15, 2004 1:36 AM PST

it showed as an optional update yesterday under "select optional software updates" and NOT under the "review high priority updates" section. There were a few others yesterday that did not see that update when they ran the "Express scan" which is why I suggested the "custom scan". Why it is showing up as a critcal update for SOME people and NOT for others is beyond me. The important thing is that everybody gets it that needs it regardless of where it is showing up at Windows Update.I wish the KB article was available but it's not still. If I click on the note for it under installation history, this is what it says exactly.

"Cumulative Update for Outlook Express for Windows XP (KB887797)
This non-security update helps resolve various issues found in Outlook Express. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
How to Uninstall
This software update can be removed via Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel.
Help and support
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=38306
Print | Close "

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Grif can you please post a link if available....
by dawillie / December 15, 2004 1:44 AM PST

checked Windows Update, priority and custom and installaton istory.

Does not show.

thanks in advance.

nice pic of you on Wayne's site.

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David, No KB887797 Article Link Available Yet...
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 15, 2004 2:16 AM PST

The "Installation History" shows exactly as Roddy indicated. My experience with the Internet Explorer and Outlook Express "Cumulative" updates has been they are always rated as "Critical". I am interested to see the final KB article. But if you visit the Windows Update site for Windows XP SP2, the wording is interesting:
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Express Install (Recommended): High Priority Updates for Your Computer

Choose this for the fastest updating. Quickly scan for, download, and install only the critical and security updates your computer needs.

Custom Install: High Priority and Optional Updates for Your Computer

Choose this to scan for optional, critical, and security updates your computer needs, choose from all the updates on the site, and review updates before downloading.
___________

In this case, the three main ones in the "Express Install" are only classified as "Important" NOT "Critical". Apparently, Microsoft is "deciding" that some "Important" updates can fall in the "Express Install"-"High Priority" section, but some "Critical" updates may not? Those links are available below:

Vulnerabilities in Windows Kernel and LSASS Could Allow Elevation of Privilege (885835):

Vulnerability in WordPad Could Allow Code Execution (885836):

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS04-041.mspx

It's not a big deal, just a little unusual.

By the way, I've also been installing a Windows Firewall update(KB886185) for Windows XP SP2 which was rated as "Critical" and WAS found in the "Express Install" scan, but at this time, there still isn't a published Knowledgebase article either...Strange.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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I found the KB886185 article
by roddy32 / December 15, 2004 2:27 AM PST

but the other one for OE is STILL not out but either myself or whoever sees it first can post that when it comes out. This is the Microsoft link for the XPSP2 Windows Firewall CRITICAL Update KB886185

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886185

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OK Roddy, How'd You Find That One ?
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 15, 2004 5:17 AM PST

I've searched everywhere through the Microsoft Knowledge Base search engines and they still don't show it. Wierd

Thanks for the link..I save all those manual downloads to be used on remote computers that are hard to access and that have dial-up connections.

Grif

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Grif
by roddy32 / December 15, 2004 6:01 AM PST

I clicked on the "View Installation History" and then clicked on that particular update and then clicked on the link that was in the popup and that took me to the KB article. BTW I just tried that on the Outlook Express Update one again too and that one is still NOT available yet. I will post it in here when/if it ever does become available.

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(NT) (NT) Thanks Roddy !
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 15, 2004 6:22 AM PST
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(NT) (NT) You're welcome grif
by roddy32 / December 15, 2004 6:25 AM PST
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Roddy, The Manual Downloads For KB88797 Are Here...
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 15, 2004 6:58 AM PST

...and currently available in the Microsoft Downloads page at the link below. (Click on the link, then type "Outlook Express Update" in the "Keywords" line. When the updates are listed, select for "Date" sorting instead of "Popularity".):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylang=en

They haven't been available for too long and the Knowloedge Base article still can't be found...but at least I can now get the downloaded installer files.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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Yep Grif, Donna just posted in
by roddy32 / December 15, 2004 7:03 AM PST
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PS about no further replies
by roddy32 / December 15, 2004 7:10 AM PST

I just now noticed the new message that Lee has for the "no further replies". It is MUCH better than the old one(for those that don't know the number trick). A lot of people that weren't regulars thought they had posted something bad when they saw the old message.LOL This is what the new one says.

Note: Due to the depth of this discussion thread, no additional replies can be accepted. If you have comments to make, please reply to the original post at the beginning of this thread.

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(NT) (NT) Yep, I Like It Better Too..'Kinder' & More Explanatory
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / December 16, 2004 4:13 AM PST
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Re: 'Kinder' & More Explanatory'
by John Robie / December 16, 2004 5:40 AM PST

Yes, better. The old notice was:

"No further replies will be accepted"

Notice also the "will" was replaced with "can".

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thought so Roddy. the new post applies to 07.04
by dawillie / December 15, 2004 1:27 PM PST
In reply to: Grif

i am sure i have it.

guess I'll keep checking.

Thank you Grif and Roddy.

david

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KB887797
by lktgdt / December 14, 2004 7:42 PM PST

Thanks!!

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