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Kamikaze squirrel wannabee

Jun 5, 2007 11:05AM PDT

On my morning ride I encountered something new.

I'm used to being chased by the occasional dog. Pepper spray is a good thing sometimes. Today I was chased by a squirrel. I'm not kidding.

I was minding my own business when this squirrel came running up from behind me on the left. It ran squarely into my front wheel, hitting it so hard that it literally bounced off.

I looked back and saw the squirrel run off the side of the road.

I'm no speed demon on a bike. I think I was going about 15 mph. The squirrel had to have been going 20+ mph. I didn't know they could run so fast! Actually, according to this site most of them probably can't. Still, I know what I saw.

I wonder if somebody sprayed eau de acorn on my bike?

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Do squirrels have a 'flight or fight'
Jun 5, 2007 4:46PM PDT

mode with adrenalin and such? Sometimes we hear reports of people doing supernormal things under stress - lifting heavy objects off a loved one, e.g.

I wonder if it was responding to a noise or vibration from your bike. When I was traveling a lot through elk country I bought some ultrasonic noisemakers for my truck which had the effect of preventing an animal from running across my path. They had the unfortunate side effect of causing birds to fly out of their way to investigate or attack, anyway usually with fatal results.

Off-topic: You no doubt remember a long-running thread about the 1918 flu epidemic. I recently taught for a HS history teacher and noticed that the two textbooks the school had given him on US history had no mention of the flu. None. Upwards of 20 million dead worldwide, with consequences, and no mention. I filled in the gap as best I could with an impromptu lecture - both groups were in the WWI period - and the teacher later said I done good. One reason I did so, I told them, was so that they could understand why their elders would turn pale at a news report about a couple of dead chickens in some far-off country.

I've seen other indications that American textbooks are not what they should be; maybe 60 Minutes could put Charlie Rose on it.

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To the best of my knowledge the adrenalin gland
Jun 5, 2007 8:51PM PDT

is common among most, if not all, mammals.

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Squirrels are most active
Jun 5, 2007 9:06PM PDT

and aggressive during mating season which should over. As I understand, however, city and rural squirrels differ in how they protect territory. Their eyesight isn't perfect either. Notice how they move left and right rather than straight ahead. They don't see directly in front of them. I have to wonder if the one you encountered didn't have some sort of sensory defect and attacked by mistake but that speed doesn't seem right. They are quick in bursts but dogs and cats can out run them.

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I found squirrels to be most active..
Jun 6, 2007 5:05AM PDT

in this area during Aug. & Sept. when the acorns started getting ripe on the oak trees. The herd that was rampaging every year thru my big oak tree at one end of the house was very disturbing sitting out on the patio, with acorns dropping all over and live leaves messing up the yard. I bought one of those wrist rocket sling shots and ball bearings for ammo and started a war with them. Boy oh boy was that some fun. I knocked one right out of the tree. He jumped up making lot of racket and actually came after me with his tail snapping away, and his mouth aswearing like mad. I had to run for the house under attack from a dam squirrel. I found that when they heard the rubber snap as I fired the sling shot, they would hop ahead about a foot and i would miss. So I adjusted for this and fired about a foot in front. Thud, got him. One veteran surviver started hopping backward. No kidding, its amazing how smart those dumb squirrels are.

I finally said the hell with them and rather then blast them out of the tree with a 12 guage I cut the tree down.

George

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You're right. Fall is a time of activity
Jun 6, 2007 5:14AM PDT

for the local squirrels as their fur changes and it's time to pack away for winter. I don't find them to be as annoying as chipmunks but have yet to declare war on them. I'll plug up their holes or dump coffee grinds down them. That probably just makes 'em more hyper. Wink

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Maybe YOUR dog can outrun them ...
Jun 6, 2007 11:52AM PDT

My not-quite-bright Maltese probably never will. Mollie loves to chase the squirrels and make a loud fuss over them but she'll never catch a healthy squirrel. The neighborhood cat will probably catch any sick ones before Mollie even knows about it.

I've never seen a squirrel run in such a straight line before. It makes me wonder whether it was a healthy squirrel.

BTW: If my speed estimate for the squirrel (20+ mph) was right that would not be too fast for a dog. I don't know about domestic cats. I've been chased by dogs at speeds well over 20 mph, even going uphill. It's amazing how much stronger your legs get when there's a big chow trying to catch you. Some of those dogs are FAST. Since cats don't generally chase bicycles I can't comment on them.

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You might consider
Jun 6, 2007 12:01PM PDT
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Maybe ... but there's a catch ....
Jun 6, 2007 12:35PM PDT

I don't own a firearm and I'd be dangerous if I did. When we went camping a few weeks ago I think I was 2 for 8 at hitting a slow moving clay pigeon with a 12 gauge shotgun.

I'm not sure I'd hit the squirrel if I tried ... and I might do a **** Cheney on my friends in the process.

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I hear tell, the Red Squirrel......
Jun 7, 2007 6:44AM PDT

is the most tender and sweetest of them all.

Geo.

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A friend once told me about being chased
Jun 7, 2007 4:27AM PDT

by a German Shepherd while the dog's owner laughed. My friend picked up the air pump from the frame of his 18-speed, flicked it open, and whacked the dog on the nose. The owner wasn't laughing any more, and the dog may have learned to stop chasing bikes. (Dogs are smart that way; smarter than their owners. Happy )

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I've never tried that ...
Jun 7, 2007 12:39PM PDT

My air pump is strapped securely onto the frame of the bike so it would be hard to pull off. My pepper spray, however, is secured by velcro at a convenient location. As long as I make sure I'm pointing it at the dog instead of myself it will work just fine. Most dogs get a whiff of the stuff and they back off even if I don't score a direct hit. The ones that don't back off are likely to get a face full ... and they don't much like it.

I don't like using the spray, and thankfully I haven't had to use it for months. Still, I intend to keep it handy.

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Kung-Fu Squirrel
Jun 6, 2007 9:25PM PDT

The squirrel may have been "annoyed" by some sound and/or thought something of your bike was amiss and had to dealt with. Happy

I live in a rural area and I'll be darned if the squirrels ever stick around for my blessing. They are very skittish and I'm lucky to see a tail now and then. I can view through a window but I'm outside and make a noise, they're gone. In fact, I think I see the leave trail dust they make at times to get an idea where they skittered to. I think the bald eagle got them trained to flee at any given moment. You think I'll see more with all the oak tress about, but rarely do. -----Willy

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(NT) Ditto me. Has anyone considered rabies in this case?
Jun 7, 2007 4:31AM PDT
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I seem to remember hearing...
Jun 7, 2007 8:03AM PDT

that small animals like squirrels die from rabies before it gets to the stage where they are attacking things. But maybe wrong.

I used to sit and eat lunch in Central Park. One time a squirrel came right over to where I was sitting and stole half a sandwich from the deli paper on the grass. Now THAT's a New York attitude.

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LOL!
Jun 7, 2007 8:06AM PDT

Didn't a comic once talk about NYC cockroaches carrying switchblades?

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That's because...
Jun 7, 2007 8:09AM PDT

they can't afford guns.

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(NT) :-)
Jun 7, 2007 1:40PM PDT
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Though, now that I think of it...
Jun 7, 2007 8:21AM PDT

bats get rabies and they are smaller than squirrels.

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Rabbits and Squirrels
Jun 7, 2007 11:53AM PDT

I was told years ago they didn't get rabies at all. Since the internet came along though with quick knowledge I've discovered they can, but it's extremely rare.

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That's my understanding ...
Jun 7, 2007 12:49PM PDT

IIRC almost all mammals CAN get rabies but the disease is much more common is some species than in others.

The animal control folks tell me that although rats, squirrels and rabbits can get rabies there have not been any reports of rabid rodents or lagomorphs around here. The major rabid animals here are raccoons and bats.

I wondered about rabies as a possibility but it seems unlikely. Not that I could prove it either way. I don't think I'd be able to pick that squirrel out of a lineup. Personally I suspect it was psychotic rather than rabid.

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(NT) maybe you "spoke" to him rudely ;)
Jun 7, 2007 7:18PM PDT
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(NT) Groan. :)
Jun 8, 2007 7:26AM PDT
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Killer squirrels
Jun 28, 2007 3:35AM PDT
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I read that they are addicted to crack!
Jun 28, 2007 5:19AM PDT
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That mite not work
Jun 28, 2007 5:24AM PDT
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That works
Jun 28, 2007 5:28AM PDT

but I'm not sure whether to chuckle or be afraid to set foot off the porch. Our neighborhood is hoppin' with squirrels and chipmunks. Parts of the yard look like a mini mine field. Happy

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Haha....lmao
Jun 28, 2007 5:47AM PDT

The mental picture i got then was brilliant! thanks Steve! Happy

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Or
Jun 28, 2007 7:31AM PDT

I might not want to "google 'squirrel addicted to crack'"!

Maybe I'll just go to bed.

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I say the story is a product of an
Jun 28, 2007 7:45AM PDT

overactive imagination. It takes time to get addicted. Impaired animals are as good as dead... very quickly...no rehab in that kingdom.

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Good point; aside from body weight problem.
Jun 28, 2007 2:38PM PDT

Hard to get them a small enough dose to addict but not kill. Also, they're rodents; don't know what the effect ought to be. I'd ask Dr. Bill, but I'm afraid he might have an answer, and then I'd lose sleep wondering how he got it. Happy